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Karel Marciniszyn
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Frank Verplanken
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We had the ATCC race tonight so all servers were down. They'll be back up soon Wink
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Frank Verplanken wrote:
We had the ATCC race tonight so all servers were down. They'll be back up soon Wink

OK Smile


so...now about setups! Shocked Shocked

I´ve got big problems with breaking...nearly always lock wheels...I have load cell brake pedall and even if I setup it as I like, I have problem with it...I am really not sure how much I can lower brake pressure

what breake presure do you use? And what front-rear ratio?
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Jens Kraft
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Hi on the first page someone said:





No LE physics here.



i have NO IDEA about rF.

so, LE can be league edition as i read the first page. waht is the difference with league edition physics?


i am currently NOT planning on a victory anyways because my reflexes are totally bad and i dont drive anyways. glen was quite the last racing kilometers except 2 races taht i drove in my lif the last months.

so i was real bad at indy, driving with engine mapping 1 lol


and now the question (beyongd what LE does):

will the lamborghini engine last the race? i am just looking for something exquisite, no matter how slow it is, hehe
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Tiago Malafaya
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Karel Marciniszyn wrote:
I´ve got big problems with breaking...nearly always lock wheels...I have load cell brake pedall and even if I setup it as I like, I have problem with it...I am really not sure how much I can lower brake pressure

what breake presure do you use? And what front-rear ratio?

86% 53-47

Try to increase engine braking map if you have trouble avoiding lock :hello:
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Tiago Malafaya wrote:
Karel Marciniszyn wrote:
I´ve got big problems with breaking...nearly always lock wheels...I have load cell brake pedall and even if I setup it as I like, I have problem with it...I am really not sure how much I can lower brake pressure

what breake presure do you use? And what front-rear ratio?

86% 53-47

Try to increase engine braking map if you have trouble avoiding lock :hello:

I used cca 96% so it looks the way that I don´t need to affraid to lower it...thank youi cheers
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Tiago Malafaya
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The main problem with the brakes is that the line where the car stops braking and starts locking is very thin, but at least with lower pressure you can have a little more travel with the brake pedal, so it's easier to spot that line and it keeps a good amount of stopping power.
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Jens Kraft wrote:

so, LE can be league edition as i read the first page. waht is the difference with league edition physics?

will the lamborghini engine last the race? i am just looking for something exquisite, no matter how slow it is, hehe

When lazy rFactor modders don't want to create individual physics for each car, they give all cars the same physics and release what they call a "League Edition". Here its not the case, all cars have different physics.

I don't know about the Lamborghini engine, its the first time we use this mod here at HSO. But I guess it should last the distance yes, if you nurse it.
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Ricardo Magno
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Any tips on tire management?

I suppose that for a race of 81 laps we should consider 2 or 3 pitstops, right?
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Ricardo Magno wrote:
Any tips on tire management?

I suppose that for a race of 81 laps we should consider 2 or 3 pitstops, right?

I don't know. I remember that during the 1992 Australian GP, Berger and Schumacher each made just one tire stop. 1991 is obviously no help in this regard.
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Martin Audran
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It depends on what tires you use in fact, I think (I don't tried to be honest) that hard tires could last all the race (but in which pace, that's the question :D ).

I did a couple of lap with a plug in I use for beta testing, and I saw that brakes lifetime decrease very fast Shocked Nearly 2% per lap What a Face I don't know what happens when it reaches 0, I'll try to test that before the race drunken

Anyway for the brake, I'm with 98% and 51-49 geek I begin to think that with this mod two teammates can't easily have the same setup, depending on their driving style :hum:
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Tiago Malafaya
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I was going to ask you some tips about your setup since I can't run under 1:14 and I'm at the absolut limit of the car with this setup
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It's the default setup with shorter gearbox and more wings bounce

Here it is.
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Tiago Malafaya
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No change in any of the other settings? Shocked
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No :aie:

Not yet :antoine: lol!
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Tiago Malafaya
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Damn, I really think you're a a case study... you're really not from this world :antoine:
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Like him?
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David Cid
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lol! lol! E.T.... Phone hoooome
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His nickname back in the day was Roswell Twisted Evil
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But he's a gentle alien with us, only 38% finished race. :frank:
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I was playling with setup a little yesterday...and it makes huge difference...

at first my problem with breaking...I decided to lower the pressure and move it back, so now I have (if i remeber well) cca 51% on front only. This help me a lot, so I can use trail breaking much more and without that much problems. Second problem was, that I always hit the groung with front wing when breaking...because I want to be as low as possible for maximazing ground effect. I decided to make the car very stiff on front and little les in the rear BUT with very soft "fast bumbps" which allowed me to go ever curbs...with this I save lot of time in first chicane and in that right turn which leads on the longest straight. Very important is gearbox...3,4 not far rom each other, but long second gear...again this help stability in accelerating from first few tight turns...

after all I prepared quali setup with a little lower wings and quali tires...all this changes bring me cca -7 seconds from previous times...and I know that go faster...together with this I realize how fatal is lack of training...I wasn´t driving last cca year and it is clearly visible Neutral i was never fast, but sometimes I feel comfortable when driving on my own limit...now, I feel uncomfortable even in slow out-lap lol! lol!

as it is embarassing for me to drive such a fast car and show slow I am...so maybe I will change to something a little slower...I will se what I can do with some of slower cars...
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Précision concernant les qualifs :

Seuls les 26 pilotes plus rapides à l'issue des qualifications pourront participer à la course.
Donc si vous manquez les 2 séances qualifs et qu'il y au moins 26 pilotes qualifiés, vous ne pourrez pas prendre le départ.
S'il y a moins de 26 pilotes qualifiés, mais que plus de 26 pilotes pouvant être présents le jour de la course, les chronos établis sur le serveur de training serviront à compléter la grille jusqu'à la 26ème position.

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A few precisions concerning the qualifying session :

Only the 26 fastest drivers at the end of the 2 qualifying sessions will be allowed to start the race.
Meaning that if you can't attend to any of the qualifying sessions, and that at least 26 drivers clocked at timed lap, you will not be allowed to start the race.
If there are less than 26 drivers with a timed lap, but more than 26 drivers willing to take the start of the race, the laptimes from the training server will be used to fill the grid until the 26th position.

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hi guys,


i jsut wanted to test the fiondmetal and the larousse.

it says:

error opening adelaide1988 . mas


the file is in lcoations\16_adelaide

i can also pick the track.

what do i have to do?


about the setups: looks either tehre are massive problems with driving these cars or it would require to take the braking foot off on bumps and put braking back on, like that guy did who debuted in spa 91 and took eau rouge flat out earliest or just lifting on the bumps anticipating them Smile


em ...


now it gives me gmotor2 error.

loading BKA file and BKS file and stuff like that. to just quickly test the cars i simply ... chose ESSINGTON park:

but that gives me also that error. i copied the mod into the road folder it loads with intro and all. already picked the car
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When i try to join the practice room, Wont let me join says there is a game mis-match, Downloaded my version on rfactor central, Am i best downloading it from the link you have on the 1st page?
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ok i have just driven in MONTREAL.

that track works. now i will post the ERROR messages:


F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 7 Dpvx4brn

F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 7 7l8vjw58



F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 7 Error110


F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 7 Error210


questions:
Are we allowed to use auto blip, auto feather? because i suddenly dont want to lift every gearchange as i did in indy. you might say: it was not necessary it only compromises the turbo, but after 900 liftings my right foot hurted a bit, racing only every some and then.

second: is there a steering lock boost on slow speeds?

is there a motor / engine mapping change in car?

what is the MIXTURE

and finally:

i know differential:
preload,
Power
Coast

but what is "pump" ?

i have MASSIVE understeer in the fondmetal (i did 2 laps in montreal) and it did only 269 kph.
and when i floor it, BOTH rear wheels spin, not just the inside one. its so hard, when i throttle the car wont turn anymore!

and the tire temperature is 71C front inside and 65C front outside

and 60C rear. not increasing.

can you give me a setup tiago malafaya, since u drove all the cars?

the laptime was 1 26 or so. thanks to the indy mod i had a better feeling to the car than beeing totally bloody, now i am still bloody beginner

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update:


"Last time i played rfactor everything was fine, I run the game again & now, different mods don't work on any tracks" thats from Google.

so does it have to do something with the mod? (i never changed mods anyways, so maybe i need to pick the mod so that it works correctly?

the BKA file that i am referred to is missing.


man i am really disappointed so much hazzle with this game ;(((((( it takes too much time already annyone has a quick solution?


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