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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran

Number of posts : 5553
Age : 34
Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 19:25

I don't use any plugin during the race but I know that in my previous test with this configuration I was nearly at 1% brake wear/lap Smile

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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

Number of posts : 385
Age : 37
Location : Ruhr District, Germany
Registration date : 2010-01-31

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 19:30

Cool, thanks,

i dont use plug-ins as well (didnt know there is a plugin that shows brake wear).

my brake failure (or the remaining discs were 1.49cm and 1.47cm, so i think brake failure starts at 1.50cm with a high probability. taht would mean (if ur disc as well fails at 1.5cm) with your thickness you would have used 80% of 1.1cm in 80 laps, which is 0.88cm so 0.1mm per lap.

or is there an indicator?

damn with brake duct 1 it used much more even on the opening lap where the disc is much colder. so i guess ... yes ... rF calculates it not only on heat alone, which would be more realistic.

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Laurent Duconge
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Laurent Duconge

Number of posts : 175
Age : 54
Location : Toulouse (Fr)
Registration date : 2008-12-07

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 21:16

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Bravo Alex, tu rentres dans le cercle huppé des vainqueurs HSO. :D :clap:
Je t'envoie l'invitation au séminaire de Décembre à Las Vegas. :regl:

Bon bin je sais quoi faire pour aller à Las Vegas....... :hum: :hum: Ca va pas être simple........ quand même :conduit: pour la :first: Mais bon sur un malentendu .... :jp: :aie: :D
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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

Number of posts : 385
Age : 37
Location : Ruhr District, Germany
Registration date : 2010-01-31

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 22:19

ok,


do you remember when somebody said: its offline much slower? like 4seconds?

same for me: the car accelerates much slower! the braking is much longer (no luck up though, so it is not only the grip).

what was set different in the server so that i try to re establish the same situation?

now its a difference of 4secs i cannot validate if my brakes will last next time, nor can i try martins setup. no brake point. nnothing.


i have no clue about rF, but a higher air density would incrase acceleration (more horsepower) and increase braking (more drag) and increase grip (more downforce at same speed).

or the gravitational factor changed?
what is different in the server settings, please tell me so i can re-try with the race setup Smile


thx
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 22:26

At this time we don't know why there is such a difference :smil20: But I must admit that we didn't investigate very hard Embarassed The only thing I can tell is that we didn't change anything on the server compared to the other mods scratch

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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeMon 9 Jul 2012 - 23:13

i just found out that switching invulnerability off and auto clutch off made me faster.


also PLR file "auto lift" "auto blip" off might give some top speed (horsepower?) and grip


still i had power oversteer which i didnt have, the grip was definately slower.


the track folder has:

.tdf

with:



[TRACKVARS]
RoadDryGrip=1.00
RoadWetGrip=0.80
RoadmetalGrip=0.80
RoadDustGrip=0.90
RoadBumpAmp=0.010
RoadBumpLen=13.0
RumbleDryGrip=0.95
RumbleWetGrip=0.60
RumbleBumpAmp=0.015
RumbleBumpLen=8.0
MiscBumpAmp=0.08
MiscBumpLen=4.0


maybe there?



:drink: cheeers :conduit:


(maybe just letting the server going on with 91 adelaide could let me drive there with martins (yours) tyrell set Smile (but wouldnt find the solution)
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran

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Nothing to do with the .tdf, otherwise we all get mismatches on the server Arrow

Server is up.

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thx martin :D

just doing the dishes
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Jens Kraft
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sorry, i didnt make it yesterday night, i was deadly tired, so i am now, i hope i will test it today (i hope you dont have any rush to switch it off again, i LVOE this mod).

and i love it as it is in the server version. the question is now, if it is online faster or offline slower. because i lvoe it so much i wanna practice it more than one day Smile
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Olivier Philipps
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Olivier Philipps

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Location : Strasbourg,France
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeTue 10 Jul 2012 - 16:33

Je fais ( comme à mon habitude ) un départ prudent, je passe le première chicane sans encombre, quelques virage plus loin Frank Verplanken se met en vrac devant moi je ne peux l’éviter mais je m’arrête a temps devant lui, il repart donc moi aussi et a ce moment précis une Leyton-House me passe et m’abîme le museau ce qui forte heureusement n’affecte pas les performances de la voiture, après ça une petite bagarre avec Franck Labedan et Frank Verplanken le quelle impose un rythme soutenue ( j’ai du mal suivre ! ), au 31e tours je décide de changer de pneus, j’essaye alors de revenir sur Frank mais j’en fais trop et je touche à plusieurs reprise le mur au freinage de l’épingle, j’abîme tous le côté gauche de la voiture elle reste cependant pilotable mais je décide d’arrêter les frais et me contente d’essayer de rallier l’arriver ce qui me réussi :banane:


En résumé j’ai passer une excellente soirée, merci à toute l’équipe HSO pour l’orga, et bravo à Alexandre, Lorenzo, et JP :clap:



Ps: Si comme moi vous faite la collection des circuits de la saison 1991 et qu’il vous manque Barcelone dans sa version de 91 a 94 elle est disponible dans le trackpack F1-SR 1992 a cette adresse;http://www.f1-sim-racer.co.uk/index.php/forum/42-f1-1992-le/1759-f1-1992-le-official-downloads

Magny-Cours 91 avec la chicane après l'épingle "D'adelaide" est dispo ici;http://www.gamefront.com/files/17735334/Magny-Cours.zip/




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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert

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Merci Olivier Smile

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Olivier Philipps
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Olivier Philipps

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Registration date : 2008-10-28

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Pas de quoi Guillaume Smile


Sinon il y a Phoenix 91 ( c’est la meilleure version que j’ai trouvé elle est bien bosselé :aie: );http://rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Phoenix91%201%2E6


Même si je pense que vous connaissez dèjà, Hockenheim 1988;http://rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Hockenheim%201988


Je suis encore assez indécis sur l’exactitude de ce dernier pour 1991 ! Sur STATSF1.com il dise que la chicane de l’Hostkurve aurait été modifier de 90 a 91 part rapport a la version 82-89, mais j’ai beau visionner et revisionner les vidéos onboard et extérieur je ne voie pas de différences entre les deux Suspect




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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]   F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th] - Page 16 Icon_minitimeWed 11 Jul 2012 - 17:45

the recent laps i drove:


The car was IN MY OPINION more losse. why? maybe it had less grip like offline. i cnat properly recall it in the race, because it was the very first time i drove with c tires at all and then 200 ltiers more fuel.

in the race i sometimes couldnt go flat out of the corners but this time it was more often.
somehow i think its different now online than in the race.

in addition when i edit auto blip and clutch out in the PLR file and deactivate auto clutch and invulnerability the car becomes faster offline.

with these settings (all 4) the car was offline as fast (or maybe close?) as online.

so it was faster offline but somehow slower online on the new server.

is there a variable that changes erver settings? rather not. but look yourself it has a bit less grip.
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