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 Round 9 - Mid-Ohio 200 [Sep 17th]

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Peter Blom
Raymond Riddall
Steve Parker
Grant Riddall
Michael Drechsler
Mick Chapman
Martin Lacina
John Thim
Lee Simpson
Bruno Chacon
Jacob Fredriksson
Richard Coxon
Alberto Ibañez
Raul Jereb
Jason Whited
David Jundt
Dana Schurer
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Yves Plaçais
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Bob Holada
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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On a road course? Now that would require a special kind of stup-nevermind Razz

TBH, I still preferred them with yellows. It's just... historically accurate, no?
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Jason White
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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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David Jundt wrote:
On a road course? Now that would require a special kind of stup-nevermind Razz

TBH, I still preferred them with yellows. It's just... historically accurate, no?

Believe me, the admins are not at all happy we had to do this.
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Too bad we still lost over half the field at Toronto without yellows. In the end, there were probably too few cars left to even cause a FCY if it had been enabled!

But hey, I am biased. I wouldn't have lost 5 laps right at the start if there had been a yellow :hihi:
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Jason White wrote:


No, this is us trying to make the races finish at a decent hour because certain crashtasic individuals keep triggering yellow after yellow after yellow.

We have Andrea DeCrasharis among us???? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
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Mick Chapman
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Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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#1 please.
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


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Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/database/races/1988-mid-ohio-champ-cars

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Jason White
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Jason White


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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Mick Chapman wrote:
#1 please.

cheers  All three Judds in the race!

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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 46
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Still at my parents place, struck down by a cold, but intending to return home on friday and trying to participate :conduit:
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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


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Age : 58
Location : Ohio
Registration date : 2015-04-17

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Jason White wrote:
David Jundt wrote:
On a road course? Now that would require a special kind of stup-nevermind Razz

TBH, I still preferred them with yellows. It's just... historically accurate, no?

Believe me, the admins are not at all happy we had to do this.

I understand you guys not being happy about doing it. And it cost a lot of people at Toronto. But we have to admit the on-track behavior at Cleveland by several was a joke! Made worse at Toronto since there was nowhere for the idiots to go besides in the way.

I'm hoping that Mid-Ohio, being a permanent road course, will alleviate some of that since we won't be running like rats in a maze, i.e. runoff room. (Boy, I hope I don't take anybody out this week.)
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Grant Riddall
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Grant Riddall


Number of posts : 313
Age : 34
Location : England
Registration date : 2015-12-10

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:conduit:
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Steve Parker
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Location : England uk
Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Absent
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Raymond Riddall
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Raymond Riddall


Number of posts : 329
Age : 61
Location : England
Registration date : 2015-08-03

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:conduit:
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Peter Blom
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Peter Blom


Number of posts : 818
Age : 42
Location : Amsterdam
Registration date : 2012-11-01

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:conduit: ...comeback after a long summer Razz
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Peter Blom wrote:
:conduit: ...comeback after a long summer Razz

It has come to our attention that you missed the last two races in a row; per series rules, that means you have lost your full time ride.  We will have to put it through the re-allocation process after Sunday.

You could drive one of the open cars, including #21, in the meantime.
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Peter Blom
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Number of posts : 818
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Location : Amsterdam
Registration date : 2012-11-01

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Jason White wrote:
Peter Blom wrote:
:conduit: ...comeback after a long summer Razz

It has come to our attention that you missed the last two races in a row; per series rules, that means you have lost your full time ride.  We will have to put it through the re-allocation process after Sunday.

You could drive one of the open cars, including #21, in the meantime.

A bit cold and formal welcome back Jason but you are right, I missed two races in a row. If anyone want's the Jiffy car please feel free. I'll see if I'll hook up to some open cars upcoming races.
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Jason White
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Maybe you missed something, but you can drive #21 as a one off tomorrow if you want. :smil20:
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Scott Urick wrote:


I understand you guys not being happy about doing it. And it cost a lot of people at Toronto. But we have to admit the on-track behavior at Cleveland by several was a joke! Made worse at Toronto since there was nowhere for the idiots to go besides in the way.

I'm hoping that Mid-Ohio, being a permanent road course, will alleviate some of that since we won't be running like rats in a maze, i.e. runoff room. (Boy, I hope I don't take anybody out this week.)

That's why I think we don't need "no yellows" here, since the track should be wide enough.

If people still mess up a lot here, one has to question if they should change to "easier" cars... :hihi:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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David Jundt wrote:
Scott Urick wrote:


I understand you guys not being happy about doing it. And it cost a lot of people at Toronto. But we have to admit the on-track behavior at Cleveland by several was a joke! Made worse at Toronto since there was nowhere for the idiots to go besides in the way.

I'm hoping that Mid-Ohio, being a permanent road course, will alleviate some of that since we won't be running like rats in a maze, i.e. runoff room. (Boy, I hope I don't take anybody out this week.)

That's why I think we don't need "no yellows" here, since the track should be wide enough.

If people still mess up a lot here, one has to question if they should change to "easier" cars... :hihi:

Cleveland is probably the widest track of all and we still had a bunch of yellows. rFactor does have a habit of being over eager when it comes to yellows too.
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Richard Coxon wrote:
David Jundt wrote:
Scott Urick wrote:


I understand you guys not being happy about doing it. And it cost a lot of people at Toronto. But we have to admit the on-track behavior at Cleveland by several was a joke! Made worse at Toronto since there was nowhere for the idiots to go besides in the way.

I'm hoping that Mid-Ohio, being a permanent road course, will alleviate some of that since we won't be running like rats in a maze, i.e. runoff room. (Boy, I hope I don't take anybody out this week.)

That's why I think we don't need "no yellows" here, since the track should be wide enough.

If people still mess up a lot here, one has to question if they should change to "easier" cars... :hihi:

Cleveland is probably the widest track of all and we still had a bunch of yellows. rFactor does have a habit of being over eager when it comes to yellows too.

I like yellows.. thy provide some rest to me and drivers which need a break from 100% pushing, I can keep faster drivers in sight, and they prevent of me running into a crashed car.
Only "con" is they loosen my concetration if too often.. but its still "three to one" in yellows favor. Ok, if we take too long races its 3:2.. still one point leading...

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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


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This is NOT debatable. The decision has been made, and there is NO turning back now. We gave plenty of warnings, and we sure as hell were really patient during those loooong yellow fests everybody had to endure. The 1988 road america race was full green, so it's not that strange to have green to green races either.
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Jason White
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Richard Wilks wrote:
This is NOT debatable. The decision has been made, and there is NO turning back now. We gave plenty of warnings, and we sure as hell were really patient during those loooong yellow fests everybody had to endure.

+1
There's a reason why we announced the rule change and then locked the thread.
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Raul Jereb
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Np with me. Just saying.
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Raul Jereb wrote:
Np with me. Just saying.

+1

After all, it's not me who'd cause those yellows :D
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Michael Drechsler
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Nuffin' wrong with the occassional yellow, they can really provide a much-needed breath (or a good opportunity to make a complete fool of yourself as I demonstrated at Cleveland). Just having one yellow after another is annoying. Sometimes I didn't even cross the finish line before the next was called. Then, the whole thing begins to become pointless...


I suppose the cars are really to demanding for many. Both in driving and setting up.
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David Jundt wrote:


After all, it's not me who'd cause those yellows :D

Well, Ill just be quiet here... :hihi: Embarassed
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