NC - Rand Grand Prix [Jan 5th]

je vois qu il y en a,  dont le passage a la nouvelle année ne leur a pas permi d arreter ou du moins de diminuer le nombre de conneries qu ils peuvent déblatèrer à la seconde ....   

bonne fin de nuit   

 

  


Considering the historic mod 1965, a stunning fact.

i saw Alex Barresi has uploaded a setup just now.
The Problem:

Is he much faster than others(?) since his brother (and maybe he is a developer of this mod too) know about details of the mod?
I loaded his setup 10minutes ago. Barresi Cooper T77 1:22.3

When i saw the setup i was baffled:

The tire pressure was not like GPL 145kPa or 160kPa or 180kPa, it was 223 kPa cold. or whatever, maybe the maxximum value. as high as can.
i gave it a go, his gears are different, no idea if to accelerate off last turn in 3rd or 4th gear with the setup.

The point:
After 3 laps i did 1:22.7 because i missed many corners because my setup is loose on entry (i uploaded yesterday my ferrari setup so u can try).
Next thing: he uses -2.0degrees camber.

After 4th lap i saw that the 1:22.3 is the best time you can get, because i approached 22.4. (But i was wrong)

his setup has 10 liters of fuel, in the 7th and last lap i didnt do 1.22.3 but i did a 1:21.893, a hundreth faster than my setup, so the same time like my setup with total different settings.

Result:

you can use any pressure in the tire, any oversteer or understeer, any camber. all advantage will be lost, or all lost will be compensated elsewhere

 i really think whatever setup you use, the car is always the same pace.
i dont know if any changes in handling could better my time, but i dont think, because i would lose elsewhere and would need 40laps to repeat the time or improve it. this short splash was really satisfying and shows: any difference a driver lacks in pace and can correct with his wheel and pedals.     

Your opinion is very interesting, Jens (Mark and i are not modders or testers, and often our opinion about physics is considered blasphemous by those who create mod physics).
About 3 week ago, i found that's possible to drive well also with tires at maximum pressure (advantage is to have more speed and better acceleration, it's an old trick used in GPL in very fast tracks).
I'm just passed at cockpit view with FOV=35°, 600° steer rotation, steering sensitivity 50, accelerator 20, brake 100 (coupled to DxTweak -128 / 0 / +127).
What are your settings (this can do difference in car control) ?

I will be there today.
   

damn i woke up today realy sick and think i ll stay in bed today
sorry to mis this but will be fit for the next one

good luck all

good recovery, francois!

Alex Barresi wrote:

Your opinion is very interesting, Jens (Mark and i are not modders or testers, and often our opinion about physics is considered blasphemous by those who create mod physics).
About 3 week ago, i found that's possible to drive well also with tires at maximum pressure (advantage is to have more speed and better acceleration, it's an old trick used in GPL in very fast tracks).
I'm just passed at cockpit view with FOV=35°, 600° steer rotation, steering sensitivity 50, accelerator 20, brake 100 (coupled to DxTweak -128 / 0 / +127).
What are your settings (this can do difference in car control) ?

hi, i thought you are testers and modders.

in GPL i did the same in tripolis, but only one click gains you 2km/h on the straight but u lose a lot. one click only is good, 138kPa in Eagle, some use 131 for normal tracks.


my pressure is 159 or 165front here in this mod.
my camber is -0.8

u can see my setup ion the setup database, the ferrari setup. if you download it and drive the ferrari (fast one not the thrid) then you will see u have over 171kmh when u touch the curb outside turn2, in Reg Parnell car i barely get 160. its light and so fast.

but see the setup and drive it, its easy to drive.
your car is like a nascar to drive: you must do a very agressive turn in to get the rear around but you must be careful to not spin. but then your cooper drives like on a rail. i cant believe how i was so fast with it, it felt very strange for 5 laps, but seems i learned in lap 6.

i do not know about the values with FOV and so. and also do not know the pedals. i think i use standard for all.

all linear, also steering. i use 270° steering, like a kart.

Server launched, qualy in 15 minutes   

Thanks Jens, also Mark use few degrees of rotation (300°), but i tried your setups with poor results: i cannot control well my car, it's too loose for my taste.
But you give me a good option to try: bump rubber, that i ever leave at zero.
I still try to add bump rubber at my setup, car seem to have less roll during a turn.
See you on track.

That means., maybe my car is lying on the bump rubber in turns!
And i didn't notice.

 

nice one Jens, thank you   

are you crazy Jens ???  

you come back on the track with many cars

my car is out

Heat 1:

I am sorry for the touch.

But i rF really didnt show cars in my mirror, i watched and watched and so decided to drive down that hill.
there the car snapped and so i spun .

It is also was a very bad situation that the car (parnell) loses all places on the straight and people shut the door in turns when i want to re-overtake. (so hard ive never seen this. maybe they were surprised i could drive there, but well i was there and had to climb curbs at 180km/h). i am used to let the door in case of doubt open to others.
when the ferrari locked the inside, i drove outside. then he braked outside again and braked too late.

;(
the problem was i dried it on the outside becuase the f

My internet completely failed this afternoon, hence my non-attendance  

Désolé Jieffe    

on va juste oublier rapidement cette première F1 65

Martin Audran wrote:

Désolé Jieffe    

ha zut, t'es out aussi Martin, bien fragiles les voitures
un coup de frein un peu (trop) appuyé parce que ça accordéonnait devant

East London est dans pas si longtemps   

Second heat was better.

when i took Freitas in last lap we had INTENSE fight with trick n tick n dive and all, every corner. so close.
with Benelli or martinelli or some Italian guy i had a spin, i dont know why i hit you, with the other cars i could go much closer.

in LAST lap, lol, my engine stutered and uphill it was off and i made space and lost some places but rolled to chequered without fuel. so intese. really. despite i stopped my engine in the gird. or does it consume fuel with ignition on when u stall it, becuase i have "ignition" not se in rF? is it so?

oh and dont forget the

DAKAR now! on Eurosport!!!!!!!!

Heat 1: Don't know what happened to Carl at the start there, he seemed to get a worse start than Webber usually did in F1! :DI almost went into the back of him, but luckily managed a decent getaway, and from there I just went backwards :(Until I blew my engine on lap 6.

Heat 2: Carl had another bad start from where I was sitting But, I soared up the field! (Mind you, that start with Yves had me on the edge of my seat   ) Again, I went backwards - and I think I must have set a record, for the first HSO driver ever to flip the car over!     It seems when I went off on what would have been my 2nd-to-last lap, I had a disagreement with... one of the cones.   And it threw me 10 feet in the air, and upside down.

So, yeah, a decent meeting for me then  

Great racing guys, Happy with my 3rd (Great last lap Vincent) and 5th, Would have been 4th but spun on the exit of the last corner.

Roll on East London!

Thanks for hosting and organizing guys!
As always HSO is the best   

Good race guys...

Heat 1 was ok except the crash in the beginning...

Heat 2 should have been better but after all i didnt have any practice since last race on kyalami

Results and replays will be up tomorrow   

Peter claims I "almost crashed him" on the final lap of heat 2, which, after reviewing the replay, is complete and utter BS.  The only reason I am responding to this charge is because he was really condescending to me afterwards, which is never a good idea until one reviews the tape.  Looked at the tape just now. I let the first and second place cars by, and then arrived at clubhouse.  I was all the way over to the left, then turned in. I'm not sure what more I could have done except pull onto the apron and stop.  I am genuinely sorry I held Peter up, but it was really a matter of unfortunate timing. I was at the clubhouse corner and turned left, then let Peter by at the esses immediately after that.  I guess Peter would have preferred I exit clubhouse slowly, stayed left and let him pass on the right. If that is the lesson he wants me to learn, fine, but looking at the tape, I think my moving over at the esses to let him by yielded the same result.  

Anyway, I had a lot of fun. Both races had great dices and great racing from Gerard, Mike, Yannick, Patrick and others.  Bodes well for the series proper.  Thank you HSO!