| Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 20:05 | |
| - Quote :
- I'll make you keep up to that promise; I want my 15m of fame throughout the season
That will make Frank use all his experience as commentator, I can already envision it ... "Tiago crashes against the barrier in the first turn" "He walks back to the pits" "Still walking" "It's a long way back" "He waves to Arisi as he passes by lapping the field for the 3rd time" "Already there!" "OK, let's return to the head of the field for the last 5 minutes of the race, seems exciting" | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 20:09 | |
| Is the Mclaren still available , or i could take the spare AGS for the test race if not | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 20:10 | |
| Take your McLaren | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 20:16 | |
| OK | |
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Yoann Quioc Club Driver
Number of posts : 119 Age : 45 Location : Au Phare Ouest, France Registration date : 2012-02-18
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:24 | |
| Plantage au chargement du warmup... je me reco puis plantage au chargement de la course... Join time out... | |
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Oscar Hardwick Club Driver
Number of posts : 162 Age : 29 Location : United Kingdom Registration date : 2012-10-14
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:34 | |
| Never mind on that one then.
I got plenty of experience with the mod and will start turning laps in my AGS as soon as I can. That said some of the people in the faster cars (Ferraris, Willams, Mclarens etc...). It seems really silly that they should just go past 30mph faster than me on a straight and then be indecisive and slow at the only times I can use the small amount of pace the car has. Caused me to twice have an issue the second of which ending my day.
Obviously the street tracks will be the only places that the faster drivers can have a race where they aren't hampered by the faster cars.
Back to the drawing board with optimal setups it is.
Oscar. | |
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Karel Marciniszyn Pro Driver
Number of posts : 954 Age : 40 Location : Czech republic Registration date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:35 | |
| This will be great racing...Mike your setup was like a drug for me...from the moment I loaded i start to enjoy driving Ferrari so much!!! Thank you for that...I feel a little embarrassed that I asked you for it, but I have to say that i will do the same before every race! Thank you again... | |
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Victor Alcocer Club Driver
Number of posts : 140 Age : 29 Location : France Registration date : 2012-11-17
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:44 | |
| Bon ba bonne qualification moyenne en 21 eme place,mais je ne pouvais pas faire mieux Je fais un bon depart,mais je dois m'arreter sec pour ne pas percuter ceux de devant,apres qulques tours sympa en bataille avec Mario et Carl,puis alors que je suis 18 eme le moteur explose,pourtant j'ai fait gaffe a couper les gazs en montant les rapport | |
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Gianluca Desposito Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1303 Age : 48 Location : Naples Italy Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:51 | |
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JB Massida Pro Driver
Number of posts : 631 Age : 33 Location : Cagnes sur Mer Registration date : 2010-02-18
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:52 | |
| Moteur mort après 21 tours... Dommage, j'avais la 6e place et je m'amusais bien à essayer de repousser les attaques d'Yves | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:56 | |
| I'm really sorry Greg if i ruined your race i got in the way of you several times and also other faster drivers , my car was ok but i thought it safer to pull into the pits and retire with my car intact ... I'm really sorry but i am going to have to pull out of this championship ... If ever there was a year i would want to race it would have to be 1991 i like the mod but i find the cars so fast and i can't get used to the brakes and i keep making stupid mistakes in front of other drivers and it's just not fair on them ... I Thought i would be ok on this track as it is a track i love so if i can't keep the car on the track here then i don't fancy my chances at other tracks ... I am very excited about the year ahead at HSO but my spare time is limited and i had already decided that i needed to pull out of one series ... This one takes an awful lot of practice and i would rather spend my limited time practicing on the other mods
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 21:59 | |
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:00 | |
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Victor Alcocer Club Driver
Number of posts : 140 Age : 29 Location : France Registration date : 2012-11-17
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:02 | |
| Je ne sais pas si les pannes sont en fontion de la durée de la course ou non,si ce n'est pas le cas ca va etre chaud | |
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Ricardo Magno Club Driver
Number of posts : 137 Age : 46 Location : Frankfurt, Germany Registration date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:06 | |
| Too bad for the engine failure... should have given it more air to breathe... Good fights on the middle of the pack were fun though. | |
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Mario Gassner Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 306 Age : 41 Location : Principality of Liechtenstein Registration date : 2008-11-22
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:07 | |
| What a nice race, although i was second....from behind. but i finished and it was cool.
If there is a free car for the championship, I`d like to take it for sure! If Carls McLaren is free and matches my abilities, i would love to drive it.
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 55 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:10 | |
| - Oscar Hardwick wrote:
- Never mind on that one then.
I got plenty of experience with the mod and will start turning laps in my AGS as soon as I can. That said some of the people in the faster cars (Ferraris, Willams, Mclarens etc...). It seems really silly that they should just go past 30mph faster than me on a straight and then be indecisive and slow at the only times I can use the small amount of pace the car has. Caused me to twice have an issue the second of which ending my day.
Obviously the street tracks will be the only places that the faster drivers can have a race where they aren't hampered by the faster cars.
Back to the drawing board with optimal setups it is.
Oscar. Sorry Oscar I know that was directed at me. I suspect I was not using enough wing and therefor at the end of the long straight I had to slow up. I knew I was losing my butt somewhere on speed...and that was the spot. FYI, I did not INTENTIONALLY go slow there if that is what you are thinking. - Karel Marciniszyn wrote:
- This will be great racing...Mike your setup was like a drug for me...from the moment I loaded i start to enjoy driving Ferrari so much!!! Thank you for that...I feel a little embarrassed that I asked you for it, but I have to say that i will do the same before every race! Thank you again...
No problem. Too little wing I suspect though. Ask Oscar. I am installing a new bumper sticker that says "Caution...fast on straights, slow as shit in turns."
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:11 | |
| LOL Greg exactly my problem I forgot to change from the Q setup the brake disc thickness and when 3rd at lap 34 they suddenly locked and waved to the left, killing my front wing and bending suspension. Made it to the pits but could not even do the full lap to finish the race, so bad were the front discs wrecked ... As for the rest of the race ... got boxed at the start behind Teemu, who like his fellow Raikkonen like sto take a nap before the race and found myself 13th or 14th, but I slowly got up to speed and charged through the field up to an unbelievable 3rd where I settled 4 seconds behind Lorenzo. If I pushed the car I was catching him, but then my supersofts went on fire, so I let it go and was willing to get the podium. Then in the last lap on the braking for 1st turn the car suddenly goes flying. I was absolutely puzzled as I had not made any error and was in fact backing up, but whe I exited the race I saw on the screen "Brakes" and understood Anyway ... I doubt much that I will be able to finish races that are double as long as this one, so I understand Carl's point. Will have to think about this EDIT: Forgot to thank Greg and the other drivers for teh clean fights as well as lappers, who did all they could. Thanks all, I really love racing here!
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Oscar Hardwick Club Driver
Number of posts : 162 Age : 29 Location : United Kingdom Registration date : 2012-10-14
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:13 | |
| - Mike Becnel wrote:
- Oscar Hardwick wrote:
- Never mind on that one then.
I got plenty of experience with the mod and will start turning laps in my AGS as soon as I can. That said some of the people in the faster cars (Ferraris, Willams, Mclarens etc...). It seems really silly that they should just go past 30mph faster than me on a straight and then be indecisive and slow at the only times I can use the small amount of pace the car has. Caused me to twice have an issue the second of which ending my day.
Obviously the street tracks will be the only places that the faster drivers can have a race where they aren't hampered by the faster cars.
Back to the drawing board with optimal setups it is.
Oscar. Sorry Oscar I know that was directed at me. I suspect I was not using enough wing and therefor at the end of the long straight I had to slow up. I knew I was losing my butt somewhere on speed...and that was the spot.
FYI, I did not INTENTIONALLY go slow there if that is what you are thinking. It wasn't just aimed at you mike. There were a number of incidents and it just strikes me as silly. You guys can obviously afford more downforce but haven't done and in some cases its just causing me to second guess. I am not as fast as Lorenzo so tasted no clean air at all. But still. The penalty on that track in that car in the pack was just massive and because of a couple of brake checks on flat out parts of the track I had to DNF the car. | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:14 | |
| BTW and elaborating on what Oscar said ... fast or slow I noticed some very dangerous differences in driving style and car setup in the race. Some cars/drivers have really VERY different braking (Noy just deeper or earlier, but DIFFERENT, like braking when the car behind can go almost flat through) and turn in points than others, and with the world going so fast in this mod, this is bound to cause a LOT of trouble. | |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 55 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:19 | |
| I have simulated some really long races (10x time) and just slightly lowering brake temperature makes a massive difference. Same on radiator size, fuel map, tranny braking...etc.
Edit: Just remember guys, not all of is are as good as you guys. But this was a good test race for me. I will now load up on wing like crack at a ghetto free for all. | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1249 Age : 26 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:24 | |
| Excellent race for me in the Dallara (albeit, thanks to others misfortunes). I noticed the time at the last minute (8:09 to be precise), and had already missed quali by the time I got onto the server, so I started 31st On another note, that was a beatufiul grid size First lap, already into about 16th I believe, and then I moved forward to 10th before others started to burn (their engines) up front, so I owe it to those that retired for my 1 point Also, that was a weird parking spot , Oscar, especially to be staying there for 2 laps, very much in the way of my line :/ | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:29 | |
| => RESULTS <= => REPLAY <= | |
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Oscar Hardwick Club Driver
Number of posts : 162 Age : 29 Location : United Kingdom Registration date : 2012-10-14
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:29 | |
| - Alberto Ibañez wrote:
- BTW and elaborating on what Oscar said ... fast or slow I noticed some very dangerous differences in driving style and car setup in the race. Some cars/drivers have really VERY different braking (Noy just deeper or earlier, but DIFFERENT, like braking when the car behind can go almost flat through) and turn in points than others, and with the world going so fast in this mod, this is bound to cause a LOT of trouble.
I agree. The main issue for say myself or anyone in one of the much much slower cars is that the engines are so low on power that setting the car up for straight line speed is pointless. We do however have plenty of wing and can generate some grip. So whilst we go slow in a straight line we are taking loads of speed through corners and braking zones. I know this is a difference on my part but with the penalty of a bad car we HAVE to set the car up this way just to get close to anyone in a car that actually works. It is worth remembering that in F1 no driver lacks ability but the cars themselves vary dramatically like they do in this mod. With the balance for this league being ability and cars that allow people the best chance, it is a lovely notion but it causes serious issues between drivers on track. For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power. I don't know if anything could be done to avoid issues like this with the rules and setup of the league as it is but I will keep trying to find a good medium. Although that'll be even more difficult in the AGS. Oscar. | |
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Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 36 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
| Subject: Re: Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th] Sun 16 Dec 2012 - 22:33 | |
| - Guillaume Siebert wrote:
- => RESULTS <=
=> REPLAY <= Is it possible for you to produce these reports for the full season next year as well as the usual stuff on the website? I think they are a fantastic to look at! P.S Well done Tiago and Alessio on your points! | |
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