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Steve Parker
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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Sat 18 Nov 2017 - 11:57

Petr Hlavac wrote:
Isn't it way too easy to kill the AU's engine? One split-second-overrev and it's done. Should a rock solid V16 be this fragile?

Was going to ask same Question,also the Front right Slow rebound has a higher setting than the Left side on the AU is this normal ?

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Sat 18 Nov 2017 - 16:15

Petr Hlavac wrote:
Please, is it possible to change mirrors range? When i set my ideal seat position (as close to the dashboard as possible and quite low, so that my wheel fits the vitual one), i can't set the mirror low enough, it still points up to the sky.

Take a look at your plr file and see if changing this line makes any difference.

Moving Rearview="0" // Whether mirrors respond to head movement in cockpit (0=none, 1=position-only, 2=FOV-only, 3=both) - add 4 if you want to IGNORE head-tracking movement
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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Sat 18 Nov 2017 - 17:46

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also the Front right Slow rebound has a higher setting than the Left side on the AU is this normal ?

Nope, that's a glitch, thanks for catching it :top:

I'll fix that and make the engines less sensitive, plus try to do something about the mirrors. Stay tuned for patch after the CART race.

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 20 Nov 2017 - 17:51


Stupid question, will lowering the Camber help? I realize they won't go negative, but are the tires even wide enough for the Camber to make a difference grip wise, or are they too narrow for it to matter?


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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 20 Nov 2017 - 19:24

Camber will help you fine tune the handling, but not affect grip much.

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 20 Nov 2017 - 19:39

Jason Fitch wrote:

Stupid question, will lowering the Camber help? I realize they won't go negative, but are the tires even wide enough for the Camber to make a difference grip wise, or are they too narrow for it to matter?


depends on what condition you need "help" with, what symptom are you encountering? maybe more or less camber would help, or maybe there is a better adjustment, what are you feeling?

maybe this is getting in too deep, but does rfactor simulate changing suspension geometry with setup adjustments? meaning, if you change the camber will that change things like akerman, bump steer, scrub radius, or are those things "fixed" in the suspension physics?

as alberto said, in the days of narrow tires the camber didnt change grip much, they were using camber for other driver preference/handling reasons. google lead me to an article about camber changing the scrub radius which would affect how the wheel "feels".
http://mccabism.blogspot.ca/2011/09/suspension-camber-in-grand-prix-racing.html


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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 20 Nov 2017 - 19:58

In fact the cars were adjustedby the engineers at the beginning of the season and between races in however way they thought best, and then the practice was used for the driver to learn the track and get used to the car. They hardly ever changed anything in the garages, and the drver was expected to drive whatever car you threw at him. That's what makes those guys so great, some of them truly epic like Nuvolari. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 20 Nov 2017 - 22:45

I'm trying to get more rear end grip out of it. I can handle the sliding, if it was the whole car, but the back end feels like a big pendulum, even at slow speeds.

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Tue 21 Nov 2017 - 9:23

Jason Fitch wrote:
the back end feels like a big pendulum, even at slow speeds.

Cool, that's exactly what those cars felt like because they had long wheelbase, narrow tracks, and the driver was sitting on top of the rear axle, with the fuel tank hanging behind. They were indeed at the very end of a long pendulum whose axis were the front wheels :top:

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 11:13

One thing i did notice with AU during the race was,the left side brakes had massive wear but none on the right scratch

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PostSubject: Re: 1937GP bugs/glitches report and driving advice   Mon 27 Nov 2017 - 11:14

Thxs will look at that study

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