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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 12:43

Carl Larrad wrote:
To analize it all i would have to say i have no problem racing with Lorenzo/Carlo/Arisi/Pozzi ...whoever he is ...
My message to Lorenzo " Please come clean Lorenzo "
You will be the butt of some of the jokes for awhile but it will prove that you are a better man Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 13:54

S'il avait vraiment voulu que cela ne se remarque pas pourquoi avait il choisit la même date d'anniversaire pour les 2 idendités Question

Gui a surement raison dans son raisonnement mais perso je n'ai jamais connu de problèmes de circulation ni avec Carlo ni avec Lorenzo, les 2 etaient tres respectueux des pilotes lappés Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 15:21

Alberto Ibañez wrote:
both Carlo Pozzi and Lorenzo Arisi are relatively common names, there are young people at facebook with them ...
All one and the same person, I presume :hum:
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 15:28

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Carl Larrad wrote:

What i don't understand is Why did he lie about his name in the 1st place its quite clear in HSO Rules you must use your Real Name
Yes it's written in the rules but we don't ask the drivers to show some ID before being allowed to race.
As Franky said, we know there are a few members not using their real names (sometimes its totally different or sometimes only slightlly modified), some of them even explained why in private (most of the time for privacy), and we are comfortable with that. You'd have registered as Carlo Larrado we'd have been ok with this :D
What I like about us using our real names (or initials or nicknames) is that you actually "know" who you're racing against. A simracer calling himself Terminator or Gilles Villeneuve etc. is, in my opinion, daft and childish.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 16:09

Reminds me of that guy that lied about his driving skills last year just to get one of the good cars and smoke the rest of the field, atleast there are no Senna-esque pseudomystic ramblings about winning this time :rigol:

No problem admitting him again, i find all this amusing to be honest. Play honest please, there´s no lack of championships with free choice for cars/league physics/spec cars if that´s what you need.

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 16:19

The privacy part as a reason to modify the real name is quite interesting, as over the years I have found out that apparently we in Spain have less variety of family names than other countries. However, since we actually have two family names you can never find someone unless you know that second one. Try googling with my name and you will see literally dozens of guys, but with my two family names combination it's only me ... and my brother :D My wife's family name however is italian and it's unique, so you would find her even if only entering that. But don't bother, I found her first :antoine:




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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 16:52

Je trouve la décision de Guillaume, juste et équilibrée (c'est le sens même de la justice, comme on le sait).

Cela fait honneur à la ligue à laquelle nous avons choisi d'appartenir et donc de suivre les règles dont elle s'est dotée.

Sur internet c'est la "jungle" de la liberté absolue et cela est appréciable pour bien des aspects.
Certains en profitent pour avancer masqués sans raison par fois (mais c'est leur droit) et tromper les gens.
Dans le cas présent, rien de très grâve, hormis l'irrespect du travail des admins que cela représente... C'est regrettable.

C'est peut-être le prix à payer pour la "liberté" de créer des activités non lucratives sur internet... Certains ne jouent pas le jeu... Dommage pour eux.

Je ne dis pas cela pour feindre d'être content de "récupérer par oeuvre de justice" la victoire dans le championnat DRT 2012, non, j'en suis très content et cela me fait plaisir car j'y ai été assidu pour finir le plus près possible de celui qui y était intouchable...
Mais dans le même temps je n'oublie pas que mon copain Franky aurait été à ma place s'il avait pu disposer d'une connection normale toute l'année... Mais cela c'est le jeu ou cela fait partie du jeu, pas comme l'interchangeabilité des identités...

Merci Gui et les autres et Lorenzo-Carlo à bientôt pour le premier jour de ta nouvelle vie d'honnête-homme.

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 18:13

A vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.

Écrit il y a environ 400 piges, certains devraient faire moins de tour en training et réviser leurs classiques!

La réaction mesurée et intelligente des admins et des pilotes est toute a votre honneur!

Merci d'exister les gars cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 19:01

Alberto Ibañez wrote:
The privacy part as a reason to modify the real name is quite interesting
I reckon several things are more likely to give away your identity than your username on a simracing forum. Your address, for starters :D I suppose one could always live at their friend's place. And use their friend's phone. And drive their friend's car. And wear their friend's clothes Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 19:46

Ben Paulet wrote:
In fact, Frank Verplanken doesn't exist, he's not a human, only an idea. :D

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 21:15

Bloomin heck!! Never saw this coming! I only know of Carlo for his amazing records"

Quite supprising really someone would do this, i know myself i would rather win from a challenge than from a easy stroll in the park. Guess other people are not the same.

Believe you admins did the right thing allowing him to continue.


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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 21:55

When i was younger and used to play Quake, we had so cheating problems with alias. One way to end this was to organize lan parties, you can't cheat in real life Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sat 2 Feb 2013 - 23:14

Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 0:41

Well, I'm going to ask something to Hollywood... there is something to do with this story ! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 2:23

wow! I'm a bit shocked reading this stuff. I'm new to you guys so I only know Lorenzo. I had a nice battle with him for the lead in my class of cars at Zolder in the 1981 DTM race.

Let's move on and see what Lorenzo can do in the really slow cars lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 13:09

*sigh*

This is fairly gutting to read in to. I will be the first to admit being in slower cars is very frustrating but here is also a compliment to a driver to be disallowed from certain cars. It was wonderful to come in at Bathurst late last year and have people congratulate me on qualifying 6th.

The atmosphere at HSO is definitely not centered around out and out pace and winning. It is I guess why so much balancing is done with the drivers which is not really a bad thing at all. Take the most recent time out at Nords in the Camaro. I am so happy about that 5th overall. The challenge of a bad car is so rewarding when it goes right so I don't see why a driver would be opposed to having that challenge.

I hope that Lorenzo (whoever?) either admits to his error here. I have loved racing against him the most recently at HSO and particularly having another hot lapper for the qualifying sessions has been wonderful fun to par-take in.

It is always a disappointment when something like this happens and I only hope that everything is resolved quickly and easily.

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 14:32

I Can't imagine the amount of work this has caused sorting all the stats and everything eles out :aie: :drink: :clap:

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 14:47

I don't mind if he comes back, he just needs to be himself, fair and honest Wink

There was no need to be a "two-timer", even if you were an aggressive driver. If you learn and behave on track, everyone will see the improvement and get to like battling said driver.


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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Sun 3 Feb 2013 - 19:26

J'avoue que je n'avais pas trop de doute sur la double identité du garçon et je pensais que les admins n'etaient pas dupes ...mais je voyais plus cela comme un petit trouble identitaire, sans trop comprendre l'interet de la chose scratch .
A la lecture du post de Gui j'ai compris :smil20:
Pas grand chose a rajouter sinon mon soutien à HSO et à ses gentils organisateurs qui nous permettent, quelque soit notre niveau, de nous amuser et parfois de nous battre avec de bien meilleurs pilotes que nous ...Beaucoup de travail et de passion pas toujours recompensés de reconnaissance Neutral
Merci à vous :hello:

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Wed 6 Feb 2013 - 21:29

I see with all the changes I got my 1st HSO podium, Shame I had to get it in these circumstances.

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Wed 6 Feb 2013 - 21:41

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I got my 1st HSO podium, Shame I had to get it in these circumstances.

Ditto for my first victory Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Thu 7 Feb 2013 - 14:05

A shame isn't it Alberto,

What happening then with Carlorenzo?

Is he going to write full apology to us all and come back racing or is he gone for good?

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Thu 7 Feb 2013 - 14:10

It seemed obvious to me that he's not coming back.
He has been caught, he's going elsewhere to satisfy his thirst of victory.
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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Thu 7 Feb 2013 - 17:21

He denied and said he will not be back, end of the story.

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PostSubject: Re: Announcement regarding Mr Arisi   Thu 7 Feb 2013 - 18:12

Richard Coxon wrote:


...with Carlorenzo?
He realized that he could not regain the good(correct) name :aie: !
Sorry couldn't resist pig !

However, the history of sad Neutral .
All the same I don't think his actions were evil intent. But I do not understand why he had hardly thought of the consequences.
I confess I have long suspected something was wrong, even when looking at section Champions HSO and profiles of the winners of the forum. But I decided that I'm not the first who saw the coincidence of the data in the profile Carlo Pozzi and Lorenzo Arisi. He even and especially not in hiding. And of course were not for me to decide what to do with it. In any case of fraud always unworthy.


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