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 Round 14 - Gran Premio de Espana [Oct 22nd]

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Grant Riddall
Alberto Ibañez
Victor Alcocer
Rossetti Paolo
Chris Stephens
Simon Wattman
Raul Jereb
John Thim
Roberto Mello
Jason Fitch
David Jaques
Emmanuel Haas
François Remmen
Philippe Martinelli
Raymond Riddall
Florkin Marc
Michal Janak
Jonatan Acerclinth
David Jundt
Gérard Ryon
Yves Plaçais
Bruno Chacon
Gabriele Del Piccolo
Victor Montenegro
Mick Chapman
Pascal Mikula
Jason Whited
Cláudio Augusto
Martin Lacina
Juha Bos
Jason White
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Simon Wattman
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Simon Wattman


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Age : 36
Location : Stockholm
Registration date : 2012-01-22

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I did create a new rfactor profile ingame and now it works :D
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Jason Whited
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Location : Virginia, USA
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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The Coloni is not to attempt to quali here?
I have no skin upgrade beyond round 13. Also, when I try to join the server in my car, it won't allow it, I cannot find the Coloni in the list of cars either. I'm prompted to select from the list of cars.
But, no offline issues.

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Jason White
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Jason Whited wrote:
The Coloni is not to attempt to quali here?
I have no skin upgrade beyond round 13.  Also, when I try to join the server in my car, it won't allow it, I cannot find the Coloni in the list of cars either.  I'm prompted to select from the list of cars.
But, no offline issues.  


As a temporary fix, I will add the round 12 filter to the server when I get home...
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Jason Whited
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Jason White wrote:


As a temporary fix, I will add the round 12 filter to the server when I get home...

:chinois:

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David Jundt
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Somehow ironical, given the fact that Coloni didn't attempt to pre-qualify at Barcelona as Chaves had walked out after a disappointing home event at Estoril.

Coloni didn't find a replacement(as I said, very short notice) until Suzuka, where national man Naoki Hattori tried to pre-qualify it.

Guess the car could be missing because of that, files weren't made.
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Rossetti Paolo
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David Jundt
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List updated.

Jason White wrote:
Car Upgrades

Cars requiring Upgrade 2: Dallara, Brabham, Jordan, Minardi, March
Cars requiring Upgrade 3: Ferrari
Cars requiring Upgrade 4: Williams
Cars requiring Upgrade 7: McLaren
**Failure to qualify and/or race with a required upgrade will result in disqualification**

Sorry Jason, but I've got an inquiry about this whole upgrade thing. Noticing something missing here, I've seen potential for confusion, which we already had at Estoril with Michal I believe.

How do we count upgrades I want to ask. When a team introduces a new car in the season(e.g. The Ferrari 643 or the Brabham BT60Y), does the car itself count as upgrade or not? Personally, I don't think it should be counted since you get the car "as is" right when you buy it, no?

I am not including "graphics only" here as the performance of the car doesn't change(and it's only for historic purposes which my list is accounting for, in case the drivers care about it as much as me lol), like the Benetton,Brabham & Coloni(which seems to have debuted with the "wrong" configuration as the text of the upgrade implies, @François?).

The list above is still missing the Footwork upgrade from Estoril as it changes lift and drag as the radiators were rearranged, and finally, it should still be upgrade 6 for McLaren as the last "7th" upgrade gets introduced at Suzuka Smile


Just wanted to bring it up, no harm/offense intended.

I hope didn't go wrong anywhere Rolling Eyes


EDIT: My list would also be wrong if we changed the way we count upgrades lol!
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Jason White
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We're are going by the way the upgrades were rolled out the last time we ran this series.
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David Jundt
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http://historicsimracing.123.st/t2254-round-14-gran-premio-de-espana-oct-20th

Guess Gui went wrong himself there(Footwork&McLaren upgrades), what a scandal!

Alberto(whether or not you're watching this topic), get the STAKES.

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I am fine though, can't get staked since I forgot to continue the list beyond Monza and thus didn't copy anything :hihi:


*Gets staked anyway since he forgot to update it*
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Gabriele Del Piccolo
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There is something wrong on server and in pit places.
I made only 2 qualy runs ( 6 laps overall ) and server counts 10 laps of 12. tried another time and I was disqualified.. Never happened in rfactor before..
I think there are pit places to correct in the AIW of the track...
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Gabriele Del Piccolo wrote:
There is something wrong on server and in pit places.
I made only 2 qualy runs ( 6 laps overall ) and server counts 10 laps of 12. tried another time and I was disqualified.. Never happened in rfactor before..
I think there are pit places to correct in the AIW of the track...

The server counts out and in laps, are you taking this into account?
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I had a similar problem. My lap count was at 8 when I started another run. I crashed on the outlap, escaped, and instead of 9 completed laps the lap count was at 10.
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Jason White
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Ok. I have PM'd Francois and asked him to take a look at this.
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Michal Janak
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i did only 3 runs witzh 3 laps and 12 laps out so last planed run nowhere, the pitstal in tent at end are wrong in something
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Jason White wrote:
Ok. I have PM'd Francois and asked him to take a look at this.

BUMP
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Results Q1
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Raymond Riddall
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Same here, two runs and 10 laps counted, started off in a tent then was moved to a garage.
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Jason White wrote:
Gabriele Del Piccolo wrote:
There is something wrong on server and in pit places.
I made only 2 qualy runs ( 6 laps overall ) and server counts 10 laps of 12. tried another time and I was disqualified.. Never happened in rfactor before..
I think there are pit places to correct in the AIW of the track...

The server counts out and in laps, are you taking this into account?

I made only 2 clear runs , every run is 3 laps : out, lap, in.. I tried to made a 3rd run but server disqualifies me.... :doh:
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Jason White wrote:
Ok. I have PM'd Francois and asked him to take a look at this.

BUMP
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Victor Alcocer
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Here :hello:
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send you a new track jason

pls read install notes
its a new full version!
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Jason White
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Patched track is loaded onto the server.
Please purge the old track and HAT files, then redownload via this link:

--> DOWNLOAD PATCHED TRACK <--

We would appreciate drivers testing to see if the lap count is now accurate, then reporting back here.


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not good pits request boxes not working now

will work on option2 tomorrow

pls delete this Jason

seems it's an AIW issue and collide with the deleted score tower i only can think off
so i will put it back in but try to make it invisible

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A new AIW is likely needed, as it might also have affected the corridors.
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Ok... putting back the old track for now.
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