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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler

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Let's go for the Great Cleveland Airport Massacre! :cowboy2: :urgence:

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Jason White
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Michael Drechsler wrote:
Let's go for the Great Cleveland Airport Massacre! :cowboy2: :urgence:

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Michael Drechsler
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Not that I'd be sad if it becomes a clean race. I just got a bad feeling about tonight's race... Crying or Very sad

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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel

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Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Broadcast having technical issues? Hope it starts but if not, fully understood, it is a lot of work with no pay.

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Peter Blom
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Peter Blom

Number of posts : 818
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Location : Amsterdam
Registration date : 2012-11-01

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Well... I feel a bit like Max Verstappen..yet again my race was compromised way too early due to other peoples mistakes. Looking at the replay of lap 2 I think Grant was a bit too impatient in overtaking Jan, Grant spun around and David who was behind him went full on the brakes, I saw that too late and tapped David from behind and I connected with Grant. I pulled into the pits for a 121 second repair but I forgot to switch off the engine and it blew after 90 seconds...think I'm too used to BTCC were I had an indestructable Honda engine :D

Very sad ending, I think this track has great potential for close racing. On to the next one  :conduit:

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Grant Riddall
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Grant Riddall

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Worst start to the race I could have made.

First turn tapped Richard into a spin. Decided to wait for him and then slotted in behind Jan. Next lap like peter said, Far to impatient and collided with jan and connected with peter. After my stop I was 2 laps down and just lost focus and collided with the chicane.

Not sure what to even say. But an apology to Richard, Peter and Jan would be a start.

Fully accepting of any consequence coming my way
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Dana Schurer
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Dana Schurer

Number of posts : 357
Age : 32
Location : Portland, OR, USA
Registration date : 2015-04-19

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Disco at half distance while running third. Mad Someday somehow I'll finish a road course race in this series... Rolling Eyes

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Adam Hackman
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Adam Hackman

Number of posts : 129
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Location : Indianapolis, Indiana USA
Registration date : 2015-12-11

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I was having a good run, but I'm over rFactor's stop and go/yellow system. I was causing a huge bottle-up trying to figure out where I was supposed to be under yellow. I get a go-to-the-end of line penalty for going too slow, so I let cars by. Then it tells me to pass them. Rather than cause others penalties or even worse cause contact under yellow, I decided to take myself out of the equation and end my race. I already had a bogus black flag from the beginning of the race. I joined this series to get better at racing not driving behind the safety car.

That being said, I feel guilty having such a good car when I have only finished 1/6 races and don't seem to be skilled enough to figure out how to drive under yellow, so I am relinquishing my ride for the rest of the season.
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Michael Drechsler
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Oh dear, what just happened was so stupid I just want to quit simracing altogether. Thanks to Alberto, I finally had a decent setup, and after the expected slow start, there was even some extended stretches of proper racing and things weren't as bad for me as I expected them. I was running well in the top 10, and not as helpless as I thought I would be. Then about 30 laps from the finish, there was a yellow, and after some considerations, I decided late to pull into the pits, as it would have been very close with fuel racing to the end. Still thinking if it was a smart move I missed the pit timer telling me I was ready to go, pulled out, saw something blue very close in my mirror, was confused for a moment and put the car right into the wall at pit exit. Game over. Things really don't go very well for me at the moment Neutral I just hope I didn't cause any damage to the guy who was right behind me at pit exit. I'm just so terribly devastated right now. I've been driving very restraint and careful for the whole race, and still can't finish anything...

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Peter Blom
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Michael Drechsler wrote:
I'm just so terribly devastated right now. I've been driving very restraint and careful for the whole race, and still can't finish anything...

Keep your head up Michael, I think you are putting yourself under too much pressure to perform for these races. Stay positive and most of all have fun with this mod. Tip: do not expect to finish and have good results..just do your best and see where it will bring you..it helps :top:

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Alan Forster
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Lost count of the amount of stupid and over aggressive incidents tonight, one of was bound to get me in the end, was just trying to finish in the points as the car was already damaged from being hit under yellow on more than one occasion (not for first time this season Rolling Eyes).

Was really proud of my qualifying result as was expecting to really struggle for pace, but race reminded me why its not fun and its not racing at the moment, really hope it improves soon.
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks

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Registration date : 2015-01-07

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From my part i apologise to whited. Totally my fault, even though you were going slow, its me who should see it.



From an admin side, i am now saying to everybody to calm down. This yellow fest won't continue, if it's up to me. Don't quit your rides or demoralize just yet.

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Jan Kowalski
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Jan Kowalski

Number of posts : 777
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sry for that touch Alberto :doh: had to stay close cause we were pulling away on straights. Lost my concentration after that and crashed stupidy


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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb

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Well, with pace 5-6 seconds slower than the rest of the field, finishin 9th is like wining Smile :first:

And its without a scratch on the car too!

Even it was a pretty lonely race, I enjoyed it. I love this track, and this cars.. just pleasure..

And big thanks to mr. Blom for helping me with setup, its pitty you retired so soon..

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David Jundt
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David Jundt

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Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Grant Riddall wrote:
But an apology to Richard, Peter and Jan would be a start.

I'd also like one here...


@Michael: I slammed on the brakes, but Juha lost his front wing on my rear and I had more steering damage.

Me having been furious would be an understatement.


Somehow I got 4th, holding off a rocket-fast Lacina in the last 3 laps.

I take that, but I am still disappointed by some of the stuff that happened, felt like I never had a healthy car.

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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos

Number of posts : 1687
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Location : Belgium
Registration date : 2016-05-11

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I'm glad I survived this race. I wasn't the fastest so I was counting on yellows to stay on the lead lap, and we had enough of those.

I managed to stay out of trouble until I Michael caused a pileup at the pit exit. After that I changed strategy which would have worked really well if there weren't even more yellows. Then I got run into by a car I'd just lapped which put my suspension out of line and made for bizarre handling. In the closing laps I had a nice fight to the line with Jason White but couldn't catch him.

Before the pit accident I was near Alberto so there was a lot more in it, but at least I finished.

Thanks to those who helped me setting the car up, I really needed it this time.

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Bruno Chacon
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Bruno Chacon

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Registration date : 2017-03-08

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Great race!
I thought I would not make it to the end of the race.
I had 2 accidents. At the first, Wilks hit me at the slowest corner and threw me off the track, that cost me 30 seconds in the stall.
In the second, Adam Hackman simply changed trajectory in the middle of the curve that precedes the curve that gives access to the straight from the box and I hit him bending my front suspension and went like this until the end. In addition, I rode alone once in the S before the start / finish line.
Aside from that, I was pretty regular, turning in 14 high and 15 low. I almost scored 1 point, because I came in 13th place.
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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch

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Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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Thrilled with a Top 10 in the 86c. That said, I had some moments.

 Apologies to Alberto for rear ending you going into Turn 7, can't remember the circumstances of it.

 A MASSIVE Apology to Juha, I don't know what the hell Yves was doing trying to dive bomb you into Turn 1, you checked up and I had nowhere to go.

 Too many people were racing way to hard against cars that were laps ahead of them, and trying some very questionable moves.

 But, I did see a lot more good racing than bad.

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Jan Kowalski
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Jan Kowalski

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Grant Riddall wrote:

Not sure what to even say. But an apology to Richard, Peter and Jan would be a start.

Fully accepting of any consequence coming my way

No problem Grant. It was really unfortunate, i let Richard pass after he dropped back on Lap 1. I didnt noticed your car (i looked at the replay, i couldnt see your car in my mirrors, only a wheel from yours), so i was taking my normal line. I had no damage, so dont worry.

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Richard Coxon
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No problem Grant  :top: Shame we couldn't battle again.

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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth

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Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Adam Hackman wrote:
That being said, I feel guilty having such a good car when I have only finished 1/6 races and don't seem to be skilled enough to figure out how to drive under yellow, so I am relinquishing my ride for the rest of the season.
Take a couple of days to cool down then make that kind of decision mate.

At HSO the cars are handed out in such a way that the field is more compressed and to allow everyone as good a chance as possible to take a win if they have a good day.

You shouldn't feel so down with not finishing, it's the way it goes sometimes, stick with it and I'm sure you'll score some great finishes come the end of the season when you've got more track time and familiarized yourself with everyone (it takes time to learn how people race in different situations).

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Juha Bos

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Jason Fitch wrote:
A MASSIVE Apology to Juha, I don't know what the hell Yves was doing trying to dive bomb you into Turn 1, you checked up and I had nowhere to go.

 Too many people were racing way to hard against cars that were laps ahead of them, and trying some very questionable moves.

I haven't seen the replay but I'm not blaming you Jason.

Yves should have done what the blue flag ordered and stop trying to take a lap back. I had to take some bad lines while he had the better line and overtook me again.

I'll look at the replay first because it happened very quickly and I had no idea what was going on.

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Jan Kowalski
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Jan Kowalski

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Richard Wilks wrote:
From my part i apologise to whited. Totally my fault, even though you were going slow, its me who should see it.

I was collected too by Whited´s car. Lost FW and both front suspensions. Well thats racing.

Grats to whoever won Smile

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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler

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Well, my apologies then to David and Juha for the pileup and damage.

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Jason White
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Jason White

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Results are up Smile

For those of you curious about why Alberto and Jan finished ahead of cars with the same lap count, it's because they ended their races ahead of those cars on the road. Alberto crashed on his 80th lap and Jan on his 79th.  The cars behind them in the results finished behind them on the road because they never started the laps Alberto and Jan did.  Hope that makes sense.

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