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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Yeah, because most kart tracks are built on private grounds I believe. But I am not sure what the regulation there is exactly.

Hillclimbs, Rallies and Slaloms are allowed because only circuit racing is banned.
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Frank Verplanken
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I believe karting is not banned because the restriction applies only to automobile and motorcycle circuit racing, and karts are not automobiles, technically.
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Axel Putra
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Isn't Swiss still banning auto racing from the sole reason of 1955 Le Mans Disaster?
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Yes it is the original reason, and many other countries such as France or Spain did the same but it only lasted a few weeks or months. Another ban on racing in France took place in early 1974, a rather demagogical decision by then PM Pierre Messmer in order to save fuel in the wake of the energy crisis geek . Turns out racing cars used something like 0.05% of the country's fuel, and seeing how his decision did more arm than good (many teams, manufacturers and sub-contractors faced bankrupcy) it only lasted a few weeks.
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David Jundt
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Sadly, our automotive industry is like non-existing, the Monteverdi Museum in my hometown even shut down for good at the end of last year.

They are present at the Geneva car show, but some of the remaining cars will go tho the museum for transport in Lucerne while other stuff might get auctioned, not sure.


Thanks Swiss government, really great job at making the world laugh at us for our narrow, un-global mindset Neutral

It's like these "eco-terrorists" and green politicians think they'll save the world with that, yet who cares about small Switzerland? Not to mention it's the same as you mentioned Frank: Racing would only be a tiny percentage of it, if they want to be "green", they should ban all these trucks passing the Gotthard tunnel each day! But no, they deliver these Zalando packages and other goods, no way in hell we could do that!

FREAKING SWISS HYPOCRITES :grrr: :bangry:
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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Some changes were introduced so that you would not be doing several 500 milers in a row, and also alternating that on sundays with 6 hour races in the WEC. 

Keeping the correct order was very important last year in the USAC series because of the changes in the rules mid-season, but in CART 88 that is not as relevant as long as the engine evolutions timing is respected, which it still is with this schedule.


Btw Alberto:

Does the moving of rounds also reflect in the entry list? So, if one team entered a car with a Judd engine, but then ran the Cosworth next round, did you take that into account and switch the car around?

This for example targets the Hemelgarn Racing cars.

Also, Gordon Johncock raced the #71 at Pocono, but for Granatelli instead of the Hemelgarn as they didn't compete there.

It's slightly confusing to find that specific entry under Hemelgarn Racing, is there a game limitation as the reason that it wasn't placed with the other Granatelli entries, even if it was just one race? scratch

My best guess is that it was intended to be a full-time ride(as it is) and to make things less confusing, it's kept in the same place as the Hemelgarn entries.

EDIT:

Also, the Wikipedia entry says Truesports used a Cosworth engine aswell? Is that false information? Shocked
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Don't trust Wikipedia for details.

Gordon Johncock is listed as driving #71 at Pocono for Hemelgarn. Scott Brayton also drove for them.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/database/races/2022-1988-pocono-500
http://www.racing-reference.info/race/1988_Quaker_State_500/R
Here's a photo of Johncock at Pocono.
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Does the moving of rounds also reflect in the entry list? So, if one team entered a car with a Judd engine, but then ran the Cosworth next round, did you take that into account and switch the car around?

As you can see in the menu, the cars are round specific. There is a separated car for each driver for each specific track/event, with the correct chassis/engine/livery combo.

When we do the races, the server will be set to filter them. So you will only be able to join with the correct car, but no worries as the server will automatically select it for you. For example if you are in game with the #20 Lola T87 and join the server for the Phoenix race, the game will load the #20 March 88C automatically and that is the car you will have online.
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@David:

Well, I am surprised that Hemelgarn car sports STP logos, something that only the Granatelli cars did I believe. Is there something I don't know? Was there a collab going on? scratch

@Alberto:

Long story short: "Yes David, when we decided to swap events with one another, we also thought of swapping the respective car combos around at the specific event."

:hihi:
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David Jundt wrote:
@David:

Well, I am surprised that Hemelgarn car sports STP logos, something that only the Granatelli cars did I believe. Is there something I don't know? Was there a collab going on? scratch
Gordy was a STP sponsored driver so he probably brought some STP sponsorship with him to Hemelgarn.
He also drove the car at Michigan, Jason grabbed an image from the TV footage.
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Next time I will make it shorter, dont worry. Ill leave it at "Fuck you David" :D
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@David: Thanks! :top: I was kinda thinking it might be personal rather than team sponsorship. Maybe I should add a car to my possible selection :hihi:

@Alberto: You unsuccessfully tried to spell "Stake David!" :jp:
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David are they the same Green politicians that drive round in big jags lol!
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I don't know their car choice(the social party lady here got herself a Tesla to look like she cares about the environment even though the production of the car and especially the batteries is already very non-ecological), but they are hypocrites anyway.

Motorsport for them is polution while truck traffic is just... necessary cargo delivery and nobody seems to mind.

Yet they blow out a lot more emissions than racing cars at events would, if you look at how many days either vehicle is circulating.
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Green party here is just the same m8,more pollution comes from there mouths than any car :D
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Hi, i have one question:

i don`t know the Tamiami track! Is it a new track or an edit of an existing one?
Can someone help me?Smile
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Torsten Weber wrote:
Hi, i have one question:

i don`t konow the Tamiami track! Is it a new track or an edit of an existing one?


It will be all new.
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The month of may is coming and I'm starting to catch a fever....the Indy500 fever! It will be truly epic with these cars! :banane:
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The CART 1988 schedule has been updated:

Round 3 is now the Milwaukee 200; still on June 11th, 2017 (thread goes up June 4th)

Round 4 is now the Indy 500, which will be on June 18th, 2017 (thread goes up June 11th)
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Jason White wrote:
The schedule has now been updated:

Round 3 is now the Milwaukee 200; still on June 11th, 2017 (thread goes up June 4th)

Round 4 is now the Indy 500, which will be on June 18th, 2017 (thread goes up June 11th)

Isn't that the WEC date?

Can't we move Indy further back? I won't be here on the 18th, that's the Le Mans weekend.

Please, I joined tonight because I want to take part very much.

Like really very much Sad
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David Jundt wrote:
Isn't that the WEC date?

We changed the WEC date to make room.

http://historicsimracing.123.st/t3431-1982-world-endurance-championship-schedule

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Anything but the 18th! Please, I want to take part! pale

I did the testing because I want to compete really bad(if we could just move each race one slot back until like the 16th July)!
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David, we're not going to delay a race a month just for you.   That's not a reasonable request.   Sorry.
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Jason White wrote:
The CART 1988 schedule has been updated:

Round 3 is now the Milwaukee 200; still on June 11th, 2017 (thread goes up June 4th)

Round 4 is now the Indy 500, which will be on June 18th, 2017 (thread goes up June 11th)

If this new Indy 500 date is going to cause problems for any other drivers, not just David, then now would be the time to speak up.
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Well, I get it.

But as I wasn't expecting the series to hit trouble like this, I planned ahead to make sure I was free. Thus I was okay to miss WEC when I could do the CART rounds. And after all, this isn't just some WEC event, it's the Indy 500.

That's why it feels like a nightmare coming true, with qualifying and testing alternatives possibly being in vain Sad


I guess I am the only one that will be on the road to Le Mans?
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