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Jukka Maattanen
Vadim Sadoshenko
Jon Hawkins
David Sabre
Paulo Rodrigues
Steven Klein
François Remmen
James Knowles
Peter Blom
Honza Mild
Florent Marty
Dylan Canton
Dave Simmons
Axel Putra
Scott Urick
Petr Hlavac
Joshua Anderson
Richard Wilks
Frank Penk
Oyvind Andersen
Jonatan Acerclinth
Michal Janak
Martin Lacina
Jacob Fredriksson
Emmanuel Haas
Sky Willis
Matthias Weber
Jan Kowalski
Jason Fitch
Raul Jereb
Alberto Ibañez
Michael Drechsler
David Jundt
Juha Bos
Ludovic Tiengou
Bob Wilson
Arpad Vincze
Jason White
Steve Parker
Pascal Mikula
Richard Coxon
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 32
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Peter Blom wrote:


for a '88 Lola-Cosworth or a  '96 Honda Civic Accord Razz

Fixed that for you.

Too bad Peter Cox only joined late in the season with BMW...

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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 34
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Honda Accord Wink

Peter Kox will be present from round 1. He was BMW's test driver that year.

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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 32
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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"Starring Peter Blom as Peter Cox"

Perfect fit.


I guessed he was test/reserve, but didn't know.

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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 119
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Frank Penk wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
You can be sure we have spiced up the VLM field ... :antoine:

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You could've at least asked before using that car.

First of all, this is not a mod for public release everywhere, but an addon we will be using exclusivley for our private league and use. And second, the car's readme gives blank permission for use, which we credited in any case in our own readme.

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Frank Penk
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Number of posts : 20
Age : 28
Location : Italy
Registration date : 2015-01-26

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Frank Penk wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
You can be sure we have spiced up the VLM field ... :antoine:

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You could've at least asked before using that car.

First of all, this is not a mod for public release everywhere, but an addon we will be using exclusivley for our private league and use. And second, the car's readme gives blank permission for use, which we credited in any case in our own readme.
Same base, better results: https://mega.nz/#!Y8k10LQL!PPVQ2RLN_CQsKuHIMOLRG2SEEOsWRmrVu0mDInci4UA + https://mega.nz/#!9gVgxKSY!NyYdtaQsgL7prsW6Z4oUDI3S1aLqt2ghjnvfQOvlDFM
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


Number of posts : 2212
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Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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How do you know the results are better...? You haven't even tried our converted one. Suspect

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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FErrari BB 512...the missing car :D

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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 44
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Frank Penk wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Frank Penk wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
You can be sure we have spiced up the VLM field ... :antoine:

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You could've at least asked before using that car.

First of all, this is not a mod for public release everywhere, but an addon we will be using exclusivley for our private league and use. And second, the car's readme gives blank permission for use, which we credited in any case in our own readme.
Same base, better results: https://mega.nz/#!Y8k10LQL!PPVQ2RLN_CQsKuHIMOLRG2SEEOsWRmrVu0mDInci4UA + https://mega.nz/#!9gVgxKSY!NyYdtaQsgL7prsW6Z4oUDI3S1aLqt2ghjnvfQOvlDFM

No offense, Frank, but if we need or want your help we will ask for it.

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Frank Penk
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Number of posts : 20
Age : 28
Location : Italy
Registration date : 2015-01-26

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Richard Wilks wrote:
How do you know the results are better...? You haven't even tried our converted one. Suspect
Just by looking at that screen, the textures look all blurred and low res which means the liveries are the SCGT ones or, at best, no higher than 1024*1024, the exhausts are missing any sort of reflection, the body is not smoothed and lacks any sort of believable reflection/cubemap and the rear grille with the BB512 paint is most likely bugged and won't show anything it actually should on other liveries.

Jason White wrote:

No offense, Frank, but if we need or want your help we will ask for it.
Yeah, just like you did with the XJS, Starion and GTV6 in the TCL mod, not bothering at all to complete any of them and just throwing them out unfinished, right?
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


Number of posts : 2212
Age : 38
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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Well Frank, you would make a better case for yourself if you weren't that aggressive. Notice that you started by accusing us of not getting permission, and now you are accusing us of doing botched jobs regarding the mods. Should i remind you that we did a lot of stuff from scratch even, and even regarding this Ferrari, i personally changed the physics and sounds?

We can't guess that there is a "better version" somewhere in the internet that we can't search, and regarding past work, sometimes our time isn't enough to just go around finishing everything to the highest degree.

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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 119
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Just by looking at that screen, the textures look all blurred and low res which means the liveries are the SCGT ones or, at best, no higher than 1024*1024, the exhausts are missing any sort of reflection, the body is not smoothed and lacks any sort of believable reflection

The screenshot is low res Rolling Eyes

But I'm already tired of your comments anyway. As far as I remember, membership at HSO is not mandatory for anybody, so feel free to leave this league that is obviously not at your level of perfectionism.

As the spanish say goes: May you take with you as much peace as you leave behind.

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Vadim Sadoshenko
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Vadim Sadoshenko


Number of posts : 1038
Age : 38
Location : Russia
Registration date : 2011-12-18

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Frank Penk wrote:

Yeah, just like you did with the XJS, Starion and GTV6 in the TCL mod, not bothering at all to complete any of them and just throwing them out unfinished, right?
These cars are my first experience. And unfortunately at the time I lacked some basic knowledge. However, it should be recognized, that the original material was in very poor condition. And it is not suitable for use. After converting, the only really serious drawback was the rear view mirrors. And now we know, that the solution to this problem is ridiculously simple. In the new conversion we are again faced with this feature of the distortion texture mirrors. I felt it my duty to solve this problem. And I coped with this task. Now, my knowledge allows to successfully solve almost any problem associated with the conversion. In the future I hope to find time to study 3d modeling and begin to create their own models, which I gladly shared with my favorite HSO.
Important to note, that we are not professionals in the modding. Just a group of enthusiasts, lovers of classic Motorsport. So Frank getting in the way of criticism, you're absolutely not constructive.
By the way, let's look at your Ferrari 512. In general, the work is very good.
But I would advise you to change the position of the mirrors. At the maximum distance from the dashboard, the image is shifted down too.
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There is an issue with the virtual mirrors:  :hum:
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I'm not sure when the lighting rear lights turn signals should not be involved. Or should?
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Finally found a photo. It seems like it's not:
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And agree, Frank, your car is too much glitters. I think you need a little to adjust the settings of shaders.
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No criticism, this is just my advice and recommendations.
Once again, your work I really like. :top:  Frank if you show some tact and patience, your work will be deservedly appreciated. Wink

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Jukka Maattanen
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Jukka Maattanen


Number of posts : 1774
Age : 35
Location : Finland
Registration date : 2009-12-17

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I looked at Frank's link - didn't click it, just stared at it - and it blew my socks off!
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 119
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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PostSubject: Re: *** 2017 HSO SEASON ***   *** 2017 HSO SEASON *** - Page 7 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Dec 2016 - 15:18

Vadim Sadoshenko wrote:
Frank Penk wrote:

Yeah, just like you did with the XJS, Starion and GTV6 in the TCL mod, not bothering at all to complete any of them and just throwing them out unfinished, right?
These cars are my first experience. And unfortunately at the time I lacked some basic knowledge. However, it should be recognized, that the original material was in very poor condition. And it is not suitable for use. After converting, the only really serious drawback was the rear view mirrors. And now we know, that the solution to this problem is ridiculously simple. In the new conversion we are again faced with this feature of the distortion texture mirrors. I felt it my duty to solve this problem. And I coped with this task. Now, my knowledge allows to successfully solve almost any problem associated with the conversion. In the future I hope to find time to study 3d modeling and begin to create their own models, which I gladly shared with my favorite HSO.
Important to note, that we are not professionals in the modding. Just a group of enthusiasts, lovers of classic Motorsport. So Frank getting in the way of criticism, you're absolutely not constructive.
By the way, let's look at your Ferrari 512. In general, the work is very good.
But I would advise you to change the position of the mirrors. At the maximum distance from the dashboard, the image is shifted down too.

It is not the same car, Vadim. And better ignore the troll - oooppss, apologizes to the trolls Rolling Eyes

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Vadim Sadoshenko
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Vadim Sadoshenko


Number of posts : 1038
Age : 38
Location : Russia
Registration date : 2011-12-18

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:

It is not the same car, Vadim. And better ignore the troll - oooppss, apologizes to the trolls Rolling Eyes
Yes, I know, that you are working over another car. Ferrari, which provided Frank, as I understand it, was to demonstrate his mastery of conversion. But as we see with the car is not going smoothly.
However, very sorry, if his intentions did not go further banal trolling.

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Alberto Ibañez


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Cool

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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos


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Location : Belgium
Registration date : 2016-05-11

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Bathurst 1000 with Super Tourers? :D

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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 43
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Juha Bos wrote:
Bathurst 1000 with Super Tourers? :D

What about the Guia Race? Macau, if you're not familiar with the name. Wink Shocked

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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos


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I know the name and I love that track, the only time I've ever held the lead on outright speed in an online rFactor race was at Macau in a WTCC mod.

These BMW's from the Spa 24 Hours looked great too:

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In 1995 BMW went all out with Piquet/Duez/Ravaglia, Tassin/Müller/Albacete, Kox/Soper/Winkelhock and Hoffmann/Muller/Burgstaller.

Smoking Jo and Co won from Piquet. Hoffmann retired with engine failure whereas Tassin had a more spectacular problem when the car set itself on fire in the pitlane.

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Sky Willis
Club Driver
Sky Willis


Number of posts : 188
Age : 34
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2016-07-02

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I want clellands vauxhall. He was my favorite driver back in the day bounce
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Steven Klein
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Steven Klein


Number of posts : 43
Age : 45
Location : Hunsrück, Germany
Registration date : 2016-12-07

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Is there any release date yet? I am soooo excited about the CART...I want to test so bad :-)
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 119
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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CART will appear later in 2017, the season will start in march so the mod will likely be available some weeks before.

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Peter Blom
Pro Driver
Peter Blom


Number of posts : 818
Age : 40
Location : Amsterdam
Registration date : 2012-11-01

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David Jundt wrote:
"Starring Peter Blom as Peter Cox"

Perfect fit.

I guessed he was test/reserve, but didn't know.

Thx for the 'Accord' fix...I totaly forgot that one even though I have watched the 1996 BTCC review lately Rolling Eyes
But I will not be applying for a BMW drive...for the rest I'm leaving my options open until the BTCC Christmas present arrives on Christmas morning :hihi:


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2017 HSO 1996 BTCC Championship  1st :flag:
2016 HSO 1973 Indianapolis 500   1st :flag:
2015 HSO 1973 Indianapolis 500  3rd :flag:  
2014 HSO 1988 Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft  4th :flag: :hihi:  

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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Don't get your hopes up Peter, my computer has blew up and died Neutral Razz

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Dave Simmons
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Number of posts : 116
Age : 32
Location : Cheltenham
Registration date : 2012-12-16

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John Cleland once nearly run me over with a golf buggy in the paddock at donnington. He was stopping for noone Razz My claim to fame Hehe
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