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François Remmen
David Sabre
Raul Jereb
Ludovic Tiengou
Guillaume Siebert
Yannick Lampure
Mike Becnel
Mick Chapman
David Jaques
Jose Berenguer
Ben Paulet
Jacob Fredriksson
Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon
Racing Legend
Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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PostSubject: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeWed 13 Jan 2016 - 23:30

If your game froze/crashed during the race, please state so in this thread.

Please also comment what car you was driving and what car graphics setting you was using.

Thankyou.
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Jacob Fredriksson
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Jacob Fredriksson


Number of posts : 1047
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeWed 13 Jan 2016 - 23:39

#28 Elfin.

Everything max except shadow blur. Used everything medium in practice but CTD'd then too.
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeWed 13 Jan 2016 - 23:55

#1 Lola T300
Qualy : Max everywhere
Race : texture High everywhere, shadow off, fx low, shadow blur enable
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Jose Berenguer
Club Driver
Jose Berenguer


Number of posts : 103
Age : 48
Location : Spain
Registration date : 2014-11-16

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 0:46

#57 team corsair
in every high rate , I was closed four or five times.
In the race it down low and i was almost half the race until it also closed



#57 team corsair
en calificacion todo alto , se me cerro cuatro o cinco veces.
En carrera lo baje a bajo y estuve casi media carrera hasta que tambien se cerro



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David Jaques
Pro Driver
David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 1:36

#10 lola t300

circuit / player / opponent / texture detail levels = high
texture filter = bilinear
special effects = high
shadows = low
shadow blur=off
visible vehicles = 16
mirrors = on
steering wheel = on

during testing thru the week, on and off the server, i never experienced an issue.

dave
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Mick Chapman
Pro Driver
Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 2:47

#59

circuit/opponent detail - high
everything else -medium
shadow blur off
AA-x4
visible cars 16

shader level dx9
resolution 160 x 1024 32 bit

when I turned everything ingame downa click, got draw errors.
worked fine offline



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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 6:31

Surtees TS8

Game locked when I exited first qual run.

Everything was at max.

Turned all to medium except opponent detail at high. Shadows off.

No issues afterwards.
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Yannick Lampure
Pro Driver
Yannick Lampure


Number of posts : 914
Age : 58
Location : toulouse, france
Registration date : 2009-02-23

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 8:05

Ben Paulet wrote:
#1 Lola T300
Qualy : Max everywhere
Race : texture High everywhere, shadow off, fx low, shadow blur enable



same to Ben !  Smile

#75 Lola T300

in qualy: return desktop
in race : return desktop
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Guillaume Siebert
League Owner
Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 10:54

Please indicate how you installed the mod : from scratch or installing it over the previous version ?
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 10:57

I installed over the old.
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Yannick Lampure
Pro Driver
Yannick Lampure


Number of posts : 914
Age : 58
Location : toulouse, france
Registration date : 2009-02-23

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 11:12

as always, on an old installation, always the same.
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


Number of posts : 2986
Age : 56
Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 11:28

MacLaren 18 #33

Got two issues during qualifications as I was in Full for everything Dx9.

During qualif I switch shadow to none and number of cars visible to 10 during Warm up.

No problems after (other than a miserable performance geek )
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 15:27

Surtees TS11

ussualy I run all details at high, 2xAA, trilinear filtering...

In qualis, it crashed.
I though its about my old PC
Lessen all the details to LOW, and couldnt enter the server (game wont load)
then I tryed different setups of detail, and found out that if opponent detail is lower than HI, it wont load.

Finally, it crashed right after Jacob Fredericson crashed (few seconds latter).
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Mick Chapman
Pro Driver
Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeThu 14 Jan 2016 - 17:08

over and old instalation
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeFri 15 Jan 2016 - 13:19

After a lot of checking files I decided to change the graphics setting in rfactor and I found that setting Player detail, opponent detail or maybe texture detail to low will stop the cars from loading with a texture error. I've no idea why low detail causes an errror. I have no problems when Player detail, opponent detail or maybe texture detail are set on Full, High, or Medium.

Can we check that this happens for other people.

1. Try loading a race with Player detail, opponent detail and texture detail set to full.

2. Try loading a race with Player detail, opponent detail and texture detail set to high.

3. Try loading a race with Player detail, opponent detail and texture detail set to medium.

4. Try loading a race with Player detail, opponent detail and texture detail set to low.

There is no need to drive the race just check that all of the cars load ok and there are no errors during loading. If the race loading stops press enter to cancel the error, you may need to do this a lot of times on low detail settings.
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Mike Becnel
Racing Legend
Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeFri 15 Jan 2016 - 17:19

With all settings on low, shadows off the game freezes while loading. First error message when I Tab our of game is as shown:

Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Crash_10

With medium+ selected the race loads without issue.

Used 30 opponents
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François Remmen
Pro Driver
François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeFri 15 Jan 2016 - 17:25

its always a mistery what causes it
and specialy only online
it "could" be a sprl shader issue (track car wise)

the track uses the sprl textures but the f5000 not
i installed the f78 mod (with the shader pages in plugin folder )and f5000 in a clean install and run all FULL exept for shadows ( high) , x 16 AS,
all went smooth , FPS 180 and stable

this track uses very high textures(2048-1024) and im pretty sure if you run to low they won'l load properly
and will crash for a certain time

i had headages to try to get snetterton55 from JP to work even to use for the 60s trackpack, resized all 4096pixel to 2048 but for som odd reason it keeps crashing so i dropped it which is a hughes shame

im aware that some people here dont have computer that are for today standards can run rf1 with eas
so be sure to run in DX9! update it if nessesary, always run the 4gb patch if you have a 64bit windows
and look in google to tweak youre username.plr and Multiplayer.ini




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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


Number of posts : 4322
Age : 40
Location : HOSSEGOR
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeFri 15 Jan 2016 - 21:00

Mike Becnel wrote:
With all settings on low, shadows off the game freezes while loading. First error message when I Tab our of game is as shown:

Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Crash_10

With medium+ selected the race loads without issue.

Used 30 opponents

I had exactly this message too
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David Sabre
Racing Legend
David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeFri 15 Jan 2016 - 21:07

Thanks everyone for testing so far :top: , I think that I'm getting close to a solution so stop testing the settings now. It appears that the specular map files are causing the problems.
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeSat 16 Jan 2016 - 17:46

We believe we have solved the issue where the game crashes.

If you install this patch over your V2.0 install, all issues should be corrected.

If you could all test this patch and report back here if you have any problems.

Thankyou


HSO F5000 CTD Patch
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeSun 17 Jan 2016 - 21:54

Can everyone test the patch above and report back stating if you had any problems (please describe) or no problems.
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeTue 19 Jan 2016 - 21:15

So nobody has tested the patch ! Sleep
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Jacob Fredriksson
Racing Legend
Jacob Fredriksson


Number of posts : 1047
Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeTue 19 Jan 2016 - 21:29

David Sabre wrote:
So nobody has tested the patch ! Sleep
Still a couple of weeks until the next race. DRM and F1 '78 has kept me busy. Will make to test thoroughly in good time ahead of Edmonton at least!
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeTue 19 Jan 2016 - 21:56

The problem is that if this patch does not fix the crashes then it could take a couple of weeks (or more) to find another solution. We would like to know that the fix solves the crashes so that we can move on to other work.
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Matthias Weber
Pro Driver
Matthias Weber


Number of posts : 520
Age : 40
Location : Remscheid, Germany
Registration date : 2013-08-06

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PostSubject: Re: Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes)   Laguna Seca Race (Games freezes) Icon_minitimeTue 19 Jan 2016 - 23:23

I've tested the patch, had no issues with 30 AI Drivers

But I also had no problems before without patch scratch
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