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 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th]

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Yves Plaçais
François Remmen
Claudio Navonne
Mick Chapman
Gérard Ryon
Sven Selbmann
Arturo Pereira
Raul Jereb
Doni Yourth
Pascal Le pihive
Steve Parker
Jean-François Bovy
Jean-louis Petillot
Dave Miller
Richard Coxon
Frank Verplanken
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Alessio Campigotto
David Sabre
Jukka Närhi
Scott Urick
Richard Wilks
Jason Fitch
Mike Becnel
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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


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Jason Fitch wrote:

200 average isn't hard to attain, but as Alberto has said, it will be hard in qualifying. We might see some breaking it on Lap 4. But the tires need 3, at minimum, laps to warm-up.  

I've run 200 in offline practice with a couple simple changes to the default setup. Now, it was scary as hell, and I wouldn't recommend it, it was squirrely as all get out.

Ummm, Fitchy? Time to grow a pair, old buddy! These guys didn't get into the greatest race in the world, or the money, or the girls, picking up milk and eggs at the store. :hello:
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Jason White
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Jukka Närhi
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th]   1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 17:28

If a driver opts for a second run, will his first time be discarded, as I believe was the practice in real life?
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Jason White
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Jukka Maattanen wrote:
If a driver opts for a second run, will his first time be discarded, as I believe was the practice in real life?

- If a driver wants a second attempt, they must wave off their first attempt before it is complete (ideally this would be done by slowing down and typing "wave off" in the chat). The times from the first attempt are discarded, and the driver's name is added to the end of the qualy schedule to try again later (a new time slot will be assigned at the same time).

EDIT:  Added this information to the first post for clarification  :top:
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Peter Blom
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Looks very professional Jason, thanks for the great effort all..this is going to be as close of an Indy experience you can get online cheers
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Jason White wrote:

at first I thought the guy on the left was Donald Trump muahahaha Laughing
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David Sabre
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th]   1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2015 - 9:55

So pole time is likely to be 200+mph, but what is the 33rd and final qaulifying time likely to be?
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Alberto Ibañez
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It's hard to tell, but I think will be somewhere around mid to low 47s.

For the slower cars, the key to qualifying will be regularity. The faster ones can rely a bit more on one or two very fast laps at the end of the run for lowering their total average, but the slower ones need to squeeze the maximum from their first lap out. This probably involves more wing than at first could seem, even if you are giving up on a faster 4th and final lap.

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
It's hard to tell, but I think will be somewhere around mid to low 47s.
Low 47s, I can't remember going that fast in my first test with the Eagle 70.
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Richard Wilks
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I don't think it will be that fast. The lowest qualifiers at this rate will all be cars that are a lot slower than that. I would venture say that the last qualifier will be in the 48s.
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Jason White
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The thing I will be curious to see is how many people can post a 200 mph lap in qualifying itself.  The 200 mph laps I've set have been after several laps when the tires are plenty warm and I've developed a rhythm. With just four laps and cold tires that will be difficult to do. Maybe by the final qualy lap the tires will be warm enough.
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Alberto Ibañez
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The lowest qualifiers at this rate will all be cars that are a lot slower than that

... and that's why they are going to be bumped Wink

But qualy at ovals and specially at Indy is a weird thing, I'm sure that we will see some surprises because as soon as a faster car makes an error he will pay for it. A slow but well driven car has more chances than a fast one suffering from a mistake. And slow cars are usually more regular than fast ones, where you are so tempted to push them more  :antoine:

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The thing I will be curious to see is how many people can post a 200 mph lap in qualifying itself. The 200 mph laps I've set have been after several laps when the tires are plenty warm and I've developed a rhythm. With just four laps and cold tires that will be difficult to do. Maybe by the final qualy lap the tires will be warm enough.

I believe that going for a qualy 200 MPH lap (Which should always be the last one) would require a different setup than going for the highest possible average. We'll see.
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Jason when we exit the pits on our qual run warmup lap can we enter the track before turn 1 or must we stay below the yellow line until the normal race time entry after the 2?

If the answer is turn 2 what happens if anyone violates the rule?
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Jason White
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Those "below the line" rules only apply to the race itself for the sake of safe merging.
Since only one car will be on track at a time, there's no need for those rules in qualy.
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Mike Becnel
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:top: thank you Jason.
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Good, I need all the extra speed I can get. lol!
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I somehow expect to see you qual within a second of pole Rocky. I asked if we could add 400 pounds to your car lol!
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Ha! We'll see.
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Is anyone experiencing a bug with the wall where you can merge through it partially with the wheels?
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In some locations that may be the case. I've been finding the car lifts up dramatically if you touch the wall on the main straight, usually leading to a blown engine.
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Alessio Campigotto
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Yes, that's the same problem I've been having. It happens the same on the straightaways between both T1-T2 and T3-T4. A bit frustrating but I guess adds realism, irl you wouldn't get away with a wall touch like you would in game.
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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
A bit frustrating but I guess adds realism, irl you wouldn't get away with a wall touch like you would in game.

Indeed. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen people touch the Indy wall and get away with it.
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Jason White
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Just want to make sure everyone understands...

The start times of 20h00 listed in the first post of the thread are Paris time

This is business as usual for HSO regulars, but since we have so many new faces I wanted to make sure there is no confusion Wink
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As you all know, Paddock TV is our broadcasting partner for this event.  They will be on our Teamspeak server throughout qualifying, and if anyone would like to be interviewed by them on live TV during the 15 minute break, the opportunity is there  Very Happy
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1 Dane Van Pelt All American Racers Practice 38,281 21-mai-2015 8:18 AM

That just cracks me up. I wonder if the engine would even last the whole race if the moron was allowed to start. I bet it burns 5% a lap even when at normal temp.
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