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Martin Audran
Dave Miller
Alessio Campigotto
Vincent Beretta
Raul Jereb
Mick Chapman
Yves Plaçais
Sven Selbmann
Mathieu Leclerc
Claudio Navonne
Gérard Ryon
Steven Duckunue
Dane Van Pelt
Ben Paulet
Guillaume Siebert
Jukka Närhi
Arturo Pereira
finally gone :)
Lee Simpson
Frank Verplanken
Richard Coxon
David Sabre
Dana Schurer
Jonatan Acerclinth
Jason Fitch
Alberto Ibañez
Robert Thurman
Doni Yourth
Jean-louis Petillot
Peter Blom
François Remmen
Mike Becnel
Richard Wilks
Jason White
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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr 2015 - 19:29


Anyone have any Tips for setups?

The Default setup is decent, you can almost run wide open once the tires heat up. Engines are going to be an issue though, the "lesser" Offy's have ver different reactions to the same gearings.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr 2015 - 19:41

That depends on wether you are talking about race or qualy setups. The defaults are "safe" race setups, which I put to help people not inclined to fiddle around with the garage to be able to run well. You can go faster with some more front wing in race trim, which will also help in traffic (Get ready for heavy aero effects, these cars generated gobs of drag and turbulence around them), but you will pay the price of a more delicate handling.  Tires are designed to wear evenly or a bit more on the front in normal conditions, as otherwise you would end the stints with a very dangerous tod rive car.
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 20 Apr 2015 - 19:54

My advice would be to spend some time driving on the server (once it is up on May 1) with others in a pack. Then you'll see, as Alberto says, the huge effects that the turbulence from a car ahead of you creates. If you have an even-handling car, it would suddenly push because of the lack of frontal downforce in the turbulence.

Another key factor is the fuel load. During the race you'll be going from 75 gallons down to zero, which means the handling changes a lot.  If you start the run with an even-handling car, it may be too loose by the end of the run, so you have to come up with a compromise setup you can live with during a full tank run.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2015 - 4:26

Sadly, when I try to download the mod, I get a captcha on the download page that won't go away so I'm unable to download the mod and have a go to see if I might join up for this one :smil20: scratch
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2015 - 6:55

Jonatan Acerclinth wrote:
Sadly, when I try to download the mod, I get a captcha on the download page that won't go away so I'm unable to download the mod and have a go to see if I might join up for this one :smil20:  scratch
That happened to me when trying to download the update. I waited a few minutes and tried the link again and it worked.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2015 - 8:12

Jonathan if the problem persists let me know and I will PM you a working link study
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 22 Apr 2015 - 15:50

For those of you who have been having issues with Mediafire downloads,

Try these:

1.0b update
https://mega.co.nz/#!W5kiDDwQ!kTP1id-RevMZ0T0UFQrdkgcQipN1J7co5ly3zsJWcW4

1.0 mod
https://mega.co.nz/#!alNWHBIQ!F4JFkcEN0-McJTp0IydIajT7Zk3OkdAxdoZFtXrYYMg

track
https://mega.co.nz/#!r8VUUJrC!O2cfFdafEL0-Ctf6VC8eUtyyjDu3k-FF8kNiI8UEtDs
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Richard Wilks
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr 2015 - 16:14

Going back to the setups topic, a car that is predictable and easy to drive is key for success. You maybe think you can handle a little bit of tail happiness in exchange for a couple less tenths a lap, but believe me, after 2 hours, in the middle of traffic, and with worn tires, you can't. :urgence:

As much as i would like seeing everybody crashing and me winning :jp: the sportsman in me preferes to race against a full field rather than ending the first hour with half the cars that started. :top:
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Dana Schurer
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Dana Schurer


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Location : Portland, OR, USA
Registration date : 2015-04-19

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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 6:17

For anyone looking to test setups offline with AI, I created an addon that makes them at least halfway competent. The addon requires the track pack at the top of the thread and adds a new track called "1973 Indy 500 Trainer" with:
-Working fast, inside, and outside lines.
-Working pit in/out and paddock-to-pit path.
-New grid and teleport positions. Cars now grid two wide.
-Some AI slowing parameters in the AIW eliminated for more competitive running.

Download here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!IgB3RY7D!NWdZ2tY0KVgQhbqVIVw6aM2cLjDsdZyMKzep4UOlCJM

For best results, set the following in your plr file:
AI to AI Collision Rate="20"
-Significantly higher and lower values caused cars to run into and through each other quite a bit more. Very messy.
Fixed Upgrades="1"
-So the AI will use your boost setting.
AI Limiter="0.00000"
-So it's a race, not a parade.

It's still not nearly perfect (being rfactor AI, after all) but generally about 2/3 of the field reach the finish in my testing. The biggest issue at this point is AI collisions in the pitlane from one slowing to enter their pitbox and the other running right into the back.
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 8:11

Wow that is great Dana :banane: you saved us lots of work for the 1.1 version of the mod & track :hihi:
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David Sabre
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 10:41

Dana Very Happy
I will give this a test later. cheers
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Richard Wilks
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Great work! :clap:
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 12:52

Dana, is your version of the track completely separated from the one we are using for qualy and the race, or does it overwrite the 73 track?
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Dana Schurer
Experienced Driver
Dana Schurer


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Location : Portland, OR, USA
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 24 Apr 2015 - 13:07

No overwrites!

It relies on files from the trackpack but it's really just a new .aiw and the supporting files (.scn, .gdb, etc) to allow it to be listed in-game as its own track.
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Richard Coxon
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 17:27

From what I gathered from what Alberto said, We cannot choose to change the lefts, only the rights.
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 17:36

No, you can change all four or only one side :frank:
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Richard Coxon
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 17:40

Well when I'm ingame there are only two tire slots, Front and Rear, Front and Rear stagger I assumed. There is no option for all 4 separate tires on mine.
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 17:42

I did a quick test, and you can save about two seconds if you only change right side tires. That may not sound like a lot, but a second in the pits can be 100 yards on the track. So it could be quite significant when two cars are battling for position. Of course if you are repairing the car, the time figure is shot to hell. :smil20:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 17:58

Yes Richard but when you are on track the pit menu in-car gives you the option to change right side only :regl:


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Richard Coxon
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 25 Apr 2015 - 18:52

That's where I was talking about, will check next week.
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Jason White
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Jason White


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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2015 - 22:21

I plan to launch the server at midnight tonight, Eastern Daylight Time (which will be 6:00 AM Paris Time, May 1).  I do not foresee having any issues, but if any complications occur, I will post an update here.
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Jason Fitch
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2015 - 22:32


Will there be a hot lap tracker?
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2015 - 22:33

Jason Fitch wrote:

Will there be a hot lap tracker?

Yes there will be.  Once the server is launched, I will post a link.  :top:
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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st]   1973 Indianapolis 500 [May 31st] - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 1 May 2015 - 5:04

THE TRACK IS NOW OPEN!


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Those who have confirmed their ride in the Entry List thread are welcome to practice with their car!


Server no: 91.121.135.76:34600
Game name is: Historic Simracing USAC73
Password is: hso73
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Frank Verplanken
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cheers Good practice to you all ! Go for that 200 mph lap :yaa: !
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