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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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#46 Smile
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez

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What's up with the M3, only 2 drivers? Do they lack air conditioning or what? 1988 DTM - Brno [August 5th] - Page 2 18590

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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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Location : Ruhr District, Germany
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they expect cold temps on race day. so maybe its the design :D
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet

Number of posts : 8291
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Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
What's up with the M3, only 2 drivers? Do they lack air conditioning or what? 1988 DTM - Brno [August 5th] - Page 2 18590
No, Mercedes is only the best car for this track. Wink
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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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i have just downloaded the mod and read the pdf.

it says the BMW is the best car, it has 310 bhp, like the mercedes, but is lighter. it has MOST wins in the series. the merc needs a better driver to achieve same results. so if u have same performance but more weight u are a bit slower every where Smile

as for me, i dont care much, but if u want i switch to beemer if not everything will ahppen. or lemme drive the undiveable sierra they all say u cant drive it hehe lets see how often i will spin.

but hell, i dunno the track. all i remember is brno49, some guys drove it, has an enormeous straight of 2km
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Karel Marciniszyn

Number of posts : 904
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Location : Czech republic
Registration date : 2009-11-03

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I drive few laps in a Mercedes in real live on this track...it wasn´t this one :D :D It was E-coupe with some V6 dieasel :D :D But I have to say that it is really 100% true that this track is only about the racing line...no place where your heart stops...again and again same turns and the only interesting things are massive elevations, especialy in the last part of the track....

On the other hand, on the bike it has to be great as you have much better power to weight ratio and wide track.


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Konstantin Paul #34 Altfrid Heger
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Laurent Binet
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Laurent Binet

Number of posts : 718
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N°1 pour moi ou n'importe quelle BM mais pas autre chose Smile
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Franck Mercurio
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Franck Mercurio

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#15 Jörg van Ommen :chinois:

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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
What's up with the M3, only 2 drivers? Do they lack air conditioning or what? 1988 DTM - Brno [August 5th] - Page 2 18590

Une seule Sierra... petits joueurs ! lol!

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Jens Kraft
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Yves Plaçais wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
What's up with the M3, only 2 drivers? Do they lack air conditioning or what? 1988 DTM - Brno [August 5th] - Page 2 18590

Une seule Sierra... petits joueurs ! lol!

can you translate taht ? pig scratch


The M3 is driven by a "Mercedes" ... she is Miss Austria 1983 isnt that reason enough?


Miss Mercedes in an M3


:clap: :conduit:
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Honza Mild
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Honza Mild

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Is the Sierra so bad at this track?
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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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no.

especially if you can drive its ok
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel

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Merc #16 Franz Klammer : Me!

I will be off the drilling rig for this one. Looking forward to it.

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wahts the drilling rig ? :D
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya

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Honza Mild wrote:
Is the Sierra so bad at this track?

As far as I can remember, Zolder and Brno were the worst tracks for the Sierra. I was expecting Hungaroring to be the worst, but surprisingly, it wasn't Smile

Oh, and Mainz-finthen of course lol!

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Mike Becnel
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Jens Kraft wrote:
wahts the drilling rig ? :D

See this link:

http://www.leswilsoninc.com/rotary_rigs.php

Rig #24

It is a medium sized surface drilling rig. We are drilling a class 1 water injection well (vs an oil well). We are drilling to 4400 feet. We are at 1645 now. I am getting a 2 week relief starting Monday (flying back to Houston) then back in 2 weeks. We will finish at the end of August.

Edit: Les Wilson is the owner of the rig. They subcontract to us. We are the overall contractor for drilling operations. My role, when you ask the drilling hands/rough necks is "Company man" which means we are the site leaders. We say, they do.

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Tiago Malafaya wrote:
Honza Mild wrote:
Is the Sierra so bad at this track?

As far as I can remember, Zolder and Brno were the worst tracks for the Sierra. I was expecting Hungaroring to be the worst, but surprisingly, it wasn't Smile

Oh, and Mainz-finthen of course lol!

OK, so i like challenges Smile, can i change car to Sierra #5 Manuel Reuter?
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Jens Kraft

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Jens Kraft wrote:
wahts the drilling rig ? :D

See this link:

http://www.leswilsoninc.com/rotary_rigs.php

Rig #24

It is a medium sized surface drilling rig. We are drilling a class 1 water injection well (vs an oil well). We are drilling to 4400 feet. We are at 1645 now. I am getting a 2 week relief starting Monday (flying back to Houston) then back in 2 weeks. We will finish at the end of August.

Edit: Les Wilson is the owner of the rig. They subcontract to us. We are the overall contractor for drilling operations. My role, when you ask the drilling hands/rough necks is "Company man" which means we are the site leaders. We say, they do.

The big engineering stuff for the huge masses of the industrial world. its nice stuff IMO.
When i was younger i was looking into high tech industries, hatet electronics and informatics but loved dynamic objects (engines, cars, all kind of hydraulic works ... aerodynamics, fluiddynamics ) but ... since my granddad was a mechanical worker (actually since 1925 he worked with wood) i always loved the exhaustion and satisfaction from mechanical work. and i never could deny my likings to the heavy stuff.

but in the 90s when i was a kid there were books only, seeing the huge stuff these days .. its a tad too big :D

i love aircraf 150-300 seats. 767 777 747 a340 a360 a380 are too big IMO.

i was eager for my life as a kid to become a pilot.

my eyes made that impossible ... thanks eyes....
so i am no airman but teaching young people technical things ... (which bores me)
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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker

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need some different cars so sierra #20 please

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Pierre Closset
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Location : Verviers, Belgium
Registration date : 2012-01-09

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Hello ! Smile

I'll take the Sierra #4 please Smile

Thanks Smile


(Yes I know, in ATCC I take DTM car and in DTM I take ATCC car lol! )

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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran

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lol! Pierre

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It really does not matter which car i choose
I thought like a woman and chose the car with the nicest colour paint scheme lol!

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Jens Kraft
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Jens Kraft

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lol,

man i love setting up the car.
can someone drive for me ?

:D
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David Jundt
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David Jundt

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Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Question: If I have this one and the ATCC one in the same install, do they interfere with each other(mismatches and etc.)?

Btw: I think Markus Östreich's name is wrong. Here's a German list of all DTM drivers:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_DTM-Fahrer

(Although Oestreich instead of Ö seems to be right aswell, now truck racer)

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