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Targa Florio History

Created more than a hundred years ago, back in 1906 in his native Sicilia by Count Vincenzo Florio, the Targa Florio is one of the very few races unanimously regarded as an eternal classic of motor racing. Along its long and varied history, the great Sicilian race has, unlike most legendary races such as Le Mans, Indianapolis or Monaco, had many different faces over the years : from an epic trek through the wild countryside of the island in the early 20th century it evolved into a pukka Grand Prix event in the 1920s, before fading out as the thirties progressed to the point of falling down to a race for Voiturettes (1930s F2) held in a parc in Palermo when World War 2 started. After the war, the race was quickly resumed but was now reserved to Sports, GT and Touring cars. This was the beginning of a new golden age for the old race, which became one of the absolute classics of the international sports car racing season. For 25 years, the world’s best drivers, teams and constructors all came to Sicilia to try and tame the fabulous 72-km (44.7 miles or three and half Nordschleifes !) natural road circuit known as Circuito Piccolo delle Madonie.

But with each year passing the cars became more and more competitive, and like many other great road circuits the Targa Florio's days as an premier interntional racing venue were counted. It was the time when the racing world started building permanent circuits for their cars rather than building cars for existing natural circuits, and the 1973 edition was the last Targa Florio to be part of the World Sportscar Championship schedule, and after a few years as a semi-international non-championship sports car event the race was merged in 1978 with the International Rally of Sicily, an event part of the Italian and European Rally Championship schedules. It is an edition of this rally version of the Targa Florio that we will try and re-create, using a customized version of the beautiful Targa Florio circuit, complete with special stages, liaison section and assistance areas, and the Group A Touring Cars of the Touring Car Legends mod.

The Mod

We will use the Touring Car Legends 1.10 mod for rFactor.
You will also need the sound pack to get all the engine sounds.
Engines sounds can be greatly improved by using this additional sound patch made by Guillaume Siebert from the Touring Masters version of the mod by the RaceDepartment.

The Circuit

This rally event was made possible thanks to our dear Jean-Philippe Campmajo, who created an addon which splits the all circuit in five special stages and as many liaison sections, as well as adding other rallying features to the track. So many thanks again to JP without who this event wouldn't be possible :chinois: :drink: !

You need the normal Targa Florio circuit (the GPL conversion by Kuato & 6s660 of Ginetto's Piccolo Madonie circuit).
You also need JP's addon file (to unzip in your Targa Florio folder, for instance : E:\rFactor\GameData\Locations\Targa_Florio).

If you already have the Targa Florio circuit installed, you only need to download JP's addon. This will not modify your original Targa Florio installation, it will only add the rally version to its folder.

Schedule (all times CET - Paris time) :

To simulate a real two-day event, we will start the first leg in the early morning, and will finish the second in the late afternoon. No full night racing is planned, but headlights might be necessary, especially for those finishing the second leg a bit late Smile .

Wednesday March 28th

8:00pm : Free Practice
8:45pm : Drivers' Briefing
9:00pm : Leg 1 (2 x 5 Special Stages)

Thursday March 29th

8:00pm : Free Practice
8:45pm : Drivers' Briefing
9:00pm : Leg 2 (2 x 5 Special Stages)

Server Password : hso89

Training Server

A training server will be online 24/7, pass : hso89.

Available Cars

Six different cars are available, all with very distinctive characteristics and performances. From 250 to 470 HP, from 930 to 1080 kg, turbocharged or not, each has its strong points and its weaknesses.
Only two of these cars have been regularly used in the previous HSO championships and open events with the TCL mod : the BMW M3 and the ALFA-Romeo 75 Turbo. The four other cars are the most powerful version of the Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500, the non-turbocharged version of the Toyota Supra, the turbocharged version of the little Ford Escort RS and the upgraded version of the Toyota Corolla Levin.

All upgrades for these six cars are allowed, and the 250 HP TRD engine upgrade for the Toyota Corolla Levin is mandatory.

Car Engine Disp. Power Weight
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 4-cylinder 2.0-litre turbo 470 1180
Toyota Supra 3.0i 6-cylinder 3.0-litre 330 1180
BMW M3 6-cylinder 2.4-litre 310 1030
ALFA-Romeo 75 Turbo 4-cylinder1.8-litre turbo 300 1050
Ford Escort RS Turbo 4-cylinder 1.6-litre turbo 280 1040
Toyota Corolla Levin TRD 4-cylinder 1.6-litre 250 930


Please book your car in the dedicated thread.

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Racing Procedure

* The rally will comprise two legs, each featuring the same 5 Special Stages to be covered twice per leg.
* The two legs will be run on two consecutive nights.
* Each leg consists of two laps of the Piccolo Madonie circuit of the Targa Florio, which we have divided in 5 Special Stages (SS) separated by as many short untimed Liaison Sections (LS).
* Overall standings will be based on the total time for the 20 SS added to the eventual penalties (see below for the detailed method of timing and scoring).
* Only drivers having completed the 20 Special Stages can be classified.

* Drivers will start the SS1 at 30-second intervals, with each start given individually by the race director via the chat.
* Starting order for the first leg will be determined by the admins, based on race numbers and driver speed : fast drivers will make the leading group and will start in their racing numbers’ order, with the other drivers starting after them, also in their racing numbers’ order.
* Starting order for the second leg will be determined by the overall standings of the rally after leg 1 (the leader will start first, …etc.).

* After the completion of the first special stage is a short slowing down zone, followed by the Liaison Section leading to SS2.
* Overtaking in a Liaison Section is strictly forbidden, except in case of force majeure such as an accidented or damaged car.

* Starts for the second special stage will be given automatically, by a red/green light signal.
* The lights will remain red for 30 seconds, before switching to green for 2 seconds.
* Only one car is allowed to start during this 2-second period of green lights – obviously the one first in line in the starting zone.
* Should a driver be right behind a car in the starting zone of a special stage, he would have to let the car in front of him take his green start and wait another 30 seconds for the next green lights to start the stage in his turn.

* The proceedings are the same at the end of the second, third and fourth special stages.
* After the end of the fifth special stages starts the last liaison section in which the assistance area (which is to rallying what the pits are to circuit racing) is located.
* A driver can stop at his pits and have his tyres changed, refuel and repair damage. Any position lost in the order because of a pitstop will not be given back.

* At the end of this fifth liaison section, drivers (whether they pitted or not) will arrive back on the starting line of SS1, ready to go for a second and last lap of racing over the same Special Stages and following the same rules as in the first lap.
* The only difference with the first lap is of course that each individual start for this second lap will be given by the red/green lights signal, and not by the admin as on the first lap.

Timing

* Each Special Stage will be timed by the game, while each liaison section is considered as a pitlane.
* You will therefore hear your spotter tell you your lap time at the end of each SS, but there is no way for the server or any hotlap or monitoring plugin to compile the combined results in live.
* Special Stage results will be posted on the forum at the end of each leg, after having been compiled and checked by the admins via the exports and replays.

Scoring

* The overall standings will be based on the scratch total time for each driver.
* Individual scratch times for the race are based on the total time for the 20 SS of the event + the eventual time penalties received by a driver.
* Decimals of seconds in the timing and scoring will always be disregarded. All times will be expressed in hours, minutes and seconds, for example : 1h16mn04s.

Penalties

* A driver absent at the scheduled time of his start of the first Special Stage of either leg will be put at the end of the starting order and will receive a 1 minute penalty to be added to his overall race time.
* Penalty for breaking the red/green light start rule will be 2 minutes added to overall race time.
* Penalty for irregular overtaking in a Liaison Section will be 3 minutes added to overall race time.
* Other flagrant breaking of the rules or of the spirit of the league, such as unsportsmanship behaviour, dangerous driving, inconsiderate blocking, …etc., can also be sanctionned with time penalties.

Notes

* As for every HSO race, drivers are asked to use their real names only, either in qualifying or in the race itself - nicknames are not allowed.
* Chatting is strictly forbidden during the race.
* Every driver having booked a car for this event is required to have read and understood the present rules. Don't hesitate if you have questions or remarks, if you need a precision or spot any mistake or forgotten points.
* HSO admins alone are qualified to solve any problems raised by the application and the interpretation of the present regulations.

Links

Those interested in the Targa Florio can learn more on the following sites :

Targa Florio
Targapedia
Golden Era of GP Racing
Racing Sports Cars

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La Targa Florio

Créée il y a plus de cent ans (1906) dans sa Sicile natale par le Comte Vincenzo Florio, la Targa Florio est une des rares courses unanimement considérée comment une des éternelles classiques de l’histoire du sport automobile. Tout au long de sa longue et tumultueuse histoire la Targa Florio a, contrairement à la plupart des autres grandes classiques comme Le Mans, Indianapolis ou Monaco, connue différent visages au fil des ans. D’un raid à travers la campagne sicilienne au début du 20e siècle, la course évolua en un véritable Grand Prix durant les années 20, avant de sombrer peu à peu dans l’indifférence à la fin des années 1930 pour n’être plus qu’une course de Voiturettes (les F2 de l’époque) dans un parc de Palerme.
Après la guerre la Targa Florio était à nouveau organisée, mais elle devenait une épreuve pour voitures de sport, gt et tourisme. Ce fut le début de l’âge d’or de la vieille course qui devint un des juges de paix incontournables du Championnat du Monde d’endurance. Pendant 25 ans, les meilleurs pilotes, voitures et écuries du monde sont venus se confronter au sublime circuit routier naturel de 72 kilomètres (trois fois et demi la Nordschleife !) connu sous le nom de Circuito Piccolo delle Madonie.

Mais les années passant et les voitures de course progressant, la Targa Florio comme tous les autres grand circuits routiers devint de plus en plus anachronique, et l’édition 1973 fut la dernière à faire partie du Championnat du Monde des Marques. Après quelques éditions en tant qu’épreuve hors-championnat semi-internationale, la Targa Florio fut fusionnée avec le Rallye International de Sicile, une épreuve faisant partie des championnats d’Europe et d’Italie de Rallyes. C’est l’une de ces éditions du rallye que nous vous proposons avec cet Open, grâce à une version spéciale du circuit Targa Florio et les voitures de tourisme Groupe A du mod Touring Car Legends.

Le Mod

Nous utiliserons le mod Touring Car Legends 1.10 pour rFactor.
Vous devez aussi télécharger le sound pack pour avoir tous les sons de moteur.
La qualité des sons des moteurs peut être grandement améliorée grâce au sound patch réalisé par Guillaume Siebert à partir de l’update Touring Masters du mod par The RaceDepartment.

Le Circuit

Cette épreuve rallye est rendue possible grâce l’irremplaçable Jean-Philippe Campmajo, qui a créé un addon qui divise le circuit en 5 épreuves spéciales et autant de liaisons. Un grand merci à JP sans qui cette épreuve ne pourrai avoir lieu:chinois: :drink: !

Vous devez télécharger le circuit Targa Florio (la conversion GPL par Kuato & 6s660 du Piccolo Madonie de Ginetto).
Vous devez également télécharger l’addon de JP (à extraire dans le dossier Targa Florio de votre installation, par exemple : E:\rFactor\GameData\Locations\Targa_Florio).

Si vous avez déjà le circuit Targa Florio d’installé vous n’avez besoin que de l’addon. L’addon ne modifie en rien votre installation originale du circuit, elle y ajoute simplement une version rallye.

Dates & Horaires

Afin de simuler le déroulement d’un rallye, le départ de la première étape sera donnée tôt le matin, et l’arrivée de la second en fin d’après-midi. Il n’y aura pas à proprement parlé de conduite de nuit, mais les phares seront néanmoins peut-être utiles à certains, notamment ceux finissant le parcours avec un retard important le second jour.

Mercredi 28 mars

20h00 : Essais libres
20h50 : Briefing des pilotes par la direction de course
21h00 : Départ de l’Etape 1 (2 x 5 Spéciales)

Jeudi 29 mars

20h00 : Essais libres
20h50 : Briefing des pilotes par la direction de course
21h00 : Départ de l’Etape 2 (2 x 5 Spéciales)

Mot de Passe serveur : hso89

Serveur d’Entraînement

Un serveur d’entraînement sera online en permanence, pass : hso89.

Voitures Disponibles

Six voitures différentes sont autorisées, toutes avec des caractéristiques et des performances différentes. De 250 à 450 cheveaux, de 930 à 1080 kilos, chacune a ses points forts et ses faiblesses.
Seules deux de ces six voitures ont déjà été fréquemment utilisées dans nos précédents Opens et championnats : la BMW M3 et l’ALFA-Romeo 75 Turbo. Les quatre autres sont : la version la plus puissante de la Ford Sierra Cosworth (the RS500), la version atmosphérique de la Toyota Supra, la version turbo de la petite Ford Escort RS et la Toyota Corolla Levin avec l’upgrade moteur Toyota Racing Development.

Toutes les upgrades pour ces six voitures sont autorisées, celle du moteur TRD 250 HP pour la Toyota Corolla Levin étant obligatoire.

Voiture Moteur Cyl. Puissance Poids
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 4-cylinder 2.0-litre turbo 470 1180
Toyota Supra 3.0i 6-cylinder 3.0-litre 330 1180
BMW M3 6-cylinder 2.4-litre 310 1030
ALFA-Romeo 75 Turbo 4-cylinder1.8-litre turbo 300 1050
Ford Escort RS Turbo 4-cylinder 1.6-litre turbo 280 1040
Toyota Corolla Levin TRD 4-cylinder 1.6-litre 250 930


Merci de réserver votre voiture dans le topic dédié.

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Déroulement du Rallye

* Le rallye se déroulera en deux étapes, chaque étape comprenant 5 spéciales à couvrir deux fois.
* Les deux étapes seront disputées sur deux soirs consécutifs.
* Chaque étape consiste en fait en deux tours du circuit Piccolo Madonie de la Targa Florio, que nous avons divisé en 5 épreuves spéciales (ES) qui sont séparées par autant de parcours de liaison (PL).
* Le classement général sera établi par l’addition des temps des 20 ES, éventuellement majorés par des pénalités (voir plus ci-dessous).
* Seuls les pilotes ayant couvert les 20 ES peuvent être classés au classement général final.

* Les pilotes prendront le départ de l’ES1 à intervalles de 30 secondes, chaque départ étant donné par le directeur de course via le tchat.
* L’ordre des départs pour la première étape sera établi par le directeur de course, en prenant en compte les numéros de course des voitures et le niveau des pilotes : les pilotes les plus rapides formeront le premier groupe qui s’élancera d’abord et dans l’ordre des numéros de course, ensuite suivis par les autres pilotes eux aussi dans l’ordre des numéros de course.
* L’ordre des départs pour la seconde étape sera établit en fonction du classement général à l’issue de la première étape (le leader partant en premier, …etc.)

* A la fin de la première ES se trouve une courte zone de décélération, suivie par le premier parcours de liaison amenant à l’ES2.
* Il est strictement interdit de dépasser dans les parcours de liaison, sauf évidemment en cas de force majeur (voiture accidentée ou endommagée par exemple).

* Les départs pour l’ES2 seront donnés automatiquement par un feux rouge/vert.
* Le feu restera rouge 30 secondes avant de passer au vert pendant 2 secondes.
* Une seule voiture est autorisée à prendre le départ de l’ES quand le feu passe au vert – évidemment celle qui se trouve la première dans la ligne d’attente de la zone de départ.
* Si un pilote se trouve juste derrière une autre voiture au départ d’une spéciale, il devra attendre que la voiture devant lui ai pris son départ et qu’une nouvelle séquence rouge/vert soit effectuée pour prendre le départ à son tour.

* Les ES2, 3 et 4 se déroulent toutes selon le processus décris ci-dessus.
* A la fin de l’ES5 commence le dernier parcours de liaison, celui dans lequel est située l’assistance (qui est aux rallyes ce que les stands sont aux circuits).
* Un pilote peut s’arrêter aux stands pour ravitailler en essence, changer de pneus et réparer des dégats sans pénalité de temps. Chaque place perdue dans l’ordre des départ suite à un arrêt aux stands ne sera par contre pas rendue.

* A la fin de ce dernier parcours de liaisons, les pilotes (qu’ils se soient arrêtés à l’assistance ou pas) arrivent de nouveau au départ de l’ES1 et enchaînent leur second tour de la soirée selon le même déroulement que le premier.
* La seul différence est bien entendu que le départ de ce second tour sera donné automatiquement par le feu rouge/vert et non pas par le directeur de course comme au premier tour.

Chronométrage

* Chaque spéciale sera chronométrée par le jeu, tandis que les tous parcours de liaison sont considérés comme faisant partie des stands du circuits.
* Votre spotter pourra donc vous annoncer votre temps à la fin de chaque ES, mais il n’y a aucun moyen pour le serveur de compiler les résultats en direct.
* Les résultats des ES seront postés sur le forum à la fin de chaque étape, après avoir été récupérées et vérifiées par les admins via l’export et les replays.

Classement

* Le classement général sera établit en fonction des temps scratch de chaque pilote.
* Les temps scratch seront établit sur le total des temps de chaque pilote pour les 20 SS, plus les éventuelles pénalités.
* Les dixièmes de seconde ne seront pas retenus, tous les temps seront exprimés en heures, minutes, secondes, par exemple : 1h16mn04s.

Pénalités

* Tout pilote absent à l’heure prévue de son départ pour l’une des deux étapes sera placé à la fin de l’ordre des départs et 1 minute sera ajoutée à son temps scratch.
* Tout pilote enfreignant la règle des départs automatisés par le feu rouge/vert aura 2 minutes ajoutées à son temps scratch.
* Tout pilote dépassant de manière irrégulière dans un parcours de liaison aura 3 minutes ajoutées à son temps scratch.
* Tout autre infraction flagrante de l’esprit ou de la règle en vigueur chez HSO, telles qu’un comportement anti-sportif, conduite dangereuse, bloquage inconsidéré, …etc. peut être sanctionnée par des pénalités en temps.

Notes

* Comme pour toutes les courses HSO vous devez être inscrit sous votre vrai nom, aussi bien sur le forum que sur le serveur. Les pseudonymes sont interdits.
* Il est strictement interdit de tchater durant la course.
* Tout pilote ayant réservé une voiture pour cette épreuve est considéré comme ayant lu et compris le présent règlement. N’hésitez pas si vous avez des questions ou des remarques, si vous avez besoin d’une précision ou si vous avez relevé une erreur ou un oubli.
* Seuls les admins HSO sont qualifiés pour résoudre tout problème relatif à l’application et l’interprétation du présent règlement.


Liens

Targa Florio
Targapedia
Golden Era of GP Racing
Racing Sports Cars

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Brilliant job, congrats to HSO admins and JP! 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 12028

Now some questions 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 420535

1) I suppose so, but just to confim: Our current full TCL download/install that is good for the ATC87 championship and last years Championat de France is also good for this Targa Florio, or do we need some aditional carset?

2)
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After the end of the fifth special stages starts the last liaison section in which the assistance area (which is to rallying what the pits are to circuit racing) is located.

Is there a pit speed limit over it that we must respect? And in the liasion sections, as in real life rally??

3)
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A driver can stop at his pits and have his tyres changed, refuel and repair damage. Any position lost in the order because of a pitstop will not be given back.

At the end of this fifth liaison section, drivers (whether they pitted or not) will arrive back on the starting line of SS1, ready to go for a second and last lap of racing over the same Special Stages and following the same rules as in the first lap.

Let me double check to be sure I understood it all:

Are the "pits" here a continuation of the track at its end, and you must go through it in any case to reach the starting lights of your second "lap" of the same section, OR do you arrive at the same spot (Starting traffic light) AND you must then steer away and move into a separate section outside the track in order to pit?

Sorry for the many questions, but this is a much different race from what we usually do ... study
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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
1) I suppose so, but just to confim: Our current full TCL download/install that is good for the ATC87 championship and last years Championat de France is also good for this Targa Florio, or do we need some aditional carset?

2) Is there a pit speed limit over it that we must respect? And in the liasion sections, as in real life rally??

3) Let me double check to be sure I understood it all:

Are the "pits" here a continuation of the track at its end, and you must go through it in any case to reach the starting lights of your second "lap" of the same section, OR do you arrive at the same spot (Starting traffic light) AND you must then steer away and move into a separate section outside the track in order to pit?

Sorry for the many questions, but this is a much different race from what we usually do ... study

On the contrary mate, don't hesitate to ask because there are a lot of particular rules and everybody needs to have understood them all by race day Smile .

1) Yes the regular TCL mod is enough. Had the recent addon with Group N cars been out sooner I maybe would have added a few I think...

2) No speed limit in the liaison sections. Initially I wanted to, to make it so much more accurate, but a) the speed limiter on the cars kinda kills the challenge of the speed limit and this cannot be disactivated without modifying the mod b) as the race will be in practice session the game won't penalize you anyway if you go over the speed limit, so it was pretty useless.

3) As you will see when you complete a lap of this rally version of the Targa, the pits are located in the formidably long straight along the sea at the end of the lap. JP did a great job on this, with several pit crews along this straight on the left side of the road. So yes, you can go through this pit area with or without stopping, but you'll have to go through it anyway. After the pit area is still another good segment of the final liaison, leading to the start of SS1 for your second lap.

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Génial, l'immersion va être totale :clap:
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Sorry to be a pig again, but I installed the track and it will not show in my menu 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 18590 I correctly placed the folders, so that I now have the 3 variants inside the Targa Florio main folder, classic, historic and rally, but when going to the menu for the test session I can only see the previous (original) two 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 18590 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 18590
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Hmm dunno what to say, this one's for JP :jp: Laughing

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J'ai le même problème qu'Alberto scratch
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Frank Verplanken wrote:
No speed limit in the liaison sections. Initially I wanted to, to make it so much more accurate, but a) the speed limiter on the cars kinda kills the challenge of the speed limit and this cannot be disactivated without modifying the mod b) as the race will be in practice session the game won't penalize you anyway if you go over the speed limit, so it was pretty useless.
But surely speeding brings no advantage as overtaking is forbidden and it's easy to go off and wreck your car :hum:

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Patrick Marucco wrote:
J'ai le même problème qu'Alberto scratch

Dans Gamedata/Locations/Targa_Florio, tu dois avoir ça :

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Ensuite le circuit apparait sous "Rally Targa Florio" et pas "Targa Florio" dans le jeu.

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Jukka Maattanen wrote:
Frank Verplanken wrote:
No speed limit in the liaison sections. Initially I wanted to, to make it so much more accurate, but a) the speed limiter on the cars kinda kills the challenge of the speed limit and this cannot be disactivated without modifying the mod b) as the race will be in practice session the game won't penalize you anyway if you go over the speed limit, so it was pretty useless.
But surely speeding brings no advantage as overtaking is forbidden and it's easy to go off and wreck your car :hum:

Yes indeed, even more as I did not do notes for the liaison sections :jp: . Anyway I think it's better to chill and give the tires a rest during the untimed sectors.

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Ensuite le circuit apparait sous "Rally Targa Florio" et pas "Targa Florio" dans le jeu.

Ahhh dammit that was it 1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] 161590

I thought it would appear under the "Targa Florio" tree, but now I see it is a track of its own Suspect
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Patrick Marucco wrote:
J'ai le même problème qu'Alberto scratch

Dans Gamedata/Locations/Targa_Florio, tu dois avoir ça :

1989 Targa Florio - Rallye di Sicilia [March 28th-29th] Captur25

Ensuite le circuit apparait sous "Rally Targa Florio" et pas "Targa Florio" dans le jeu.


C'est OK, je n'avais pas cherché l'entrée du circuit au bon endroit
Merci Gui Wink
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I presume stages must be started from a standstill?

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Yes of course Smile . I'll check the replays to make sure nobody cheats Razz .

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Does that me if we come into the start of an SS, even if the light is green, we must stiop and wait for the next green?
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Exactly Wink

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OK, I understand then Wink
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Bonjour,

Je voulais tester le tout avant de m'inscrire mais j'ai un problème avec un fichier .mas au chargement et ça plante. J'ai tout pris chez vous donc je ne sais pas si le problème vient de chez moi ou pas...

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T'arrives à voir le nom du .mas en question quand ça plante ?

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C'est le fichier TARGA_RALLY.mas
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Ca doit être mal installé, faut que ca soit comme dans le post de Gui au dessus.

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J'ai vérifié et tout est installé de la même manière, comme décrit ci-dessus.
Je ne comprends pas. Je vais supprimer le tout et le remettre pour voir si j'ai pas fait une erreur quelque part quand même...
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