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 Round 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5]

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Otávio de Barros
Cezariusz Czlapinski
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Michal Janak
Paul Velasco
David Jundt
Honza Mild
Gérard Ryon
Yannick Lampure
Jan Titz
Mike Becnel
Steve Parker
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Frank Verplanken
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2020 HSO Gold Star | Round 2 | 1987 Norisring DTM




Round 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] 03b_1910


EVENT SCHEDULE

Wednesday February 5th (all times given are CET) :

20:00 - Qualifying session (60 minutes, unlimited number of laps)
21:00 - Drivers' Briefing & Warm-up
21:15 - Race Start (44 laps)

Password : hso87

A training server will be running 24/7 (same password).

Thanks for booking your car in the present thread.


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1987 Norisring DTM Entry List


#Car1987 DriverTeam2020 HSO DriverCarset
12.4 BMW M3Marc HesselTeam ZakspeedTBD1987 DTM
22.4 BMW M3Eric van de PoeleTeam ZakspeedTBD1987 DTM
32.4 BMW M3Kurt KönigAuto MaassRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] France-Christian Dauger1987 DTM
42.2t Volvo 240 TurboPer SturesonIPS MotorsportRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Germany-Matthias Weber1987 DTM
42.0t Ford Sierra RSJoachim WinkelhockWalter Wolf RacingRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Germany-Jan Titz1987 WTCC
43.6 Rover VitesseDennis LeechDennis LeechRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Cze-Honza Mild1987 BTCC
52.2t Volvo 240 TurboAnders LindbergIPS MotorsportRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Poland-Cezariusz Czlapinski1987 DTM
62.4 BMW M3Harald GrohsValier MotorsportTBD1987 DTM
62.0t Ford Sierra RSSteve SoperEggenberger MotorsportRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Brazil-Bruno Chacon1987 WTCC
72.0t Ford Sierra RSKlaus LudwigEggenberger MotorsportRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] France-Yannick Lampure1987 WTCC
73.5 BMW 635 CSiAnton GoeserAC MünchenRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Brazil-Otávio de Barros1987 DTM
82.0t Ford Sierra RSAndy RouseAndy Rouse EngineeringRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Portugal-Paul Velasco1987 WTCC
83.6 Rover VitesseTim HarveyAndy Rouse EngineeringRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Uk-Steve Parker1987 BTCC
103.5 BMW 635 CSiFritz MuellerMüller-Bräu TeamRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Uk-Mick Chapman1987 DTM
112.0t Ford Sierra RSJari NurminenWalter Wolf RacingRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] France-François Violet1987 WTCC
133.6 Rover VitesseVincent BertinchampsZeus RacingRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Cze-Michal Janak1987 WTCC
172.0t Ford Sierra RSMarc DuezWaterloo MotorsRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Belgium-Gérard Ryon1987 WTCC
173.5 BMW 635 CSiVolker StrycekGubin Sport TeamRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Germany-Georg Walz
1987 DTM
242.4 BMW M3Olaf MantheyTeam IsertTBD1987 DTM
252.4 BMW M3Josef GeroldTeam IsertTBD1987 DTM
282.0t Ford Sierra RSBernard SantalEuromotorsportRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Switzerland-David Jundt1987 WTCC
312.4 BMW M3Arnold MattschullWollstadt Racing TeamTBD1987 DTM
332.4 BMW M3Andy BoevensiepenAlpina Faltz EssenTBD1987 DTM
343.5 BMW 635 CSiManfred NiederhofManfred NiederhofTBD1987 DTM
352.4 BMW M3Thomas von LoewisAlpina Faltz EssenTBD1987 DTM
373.5 BMW 635 CSiRaymond van HoveWaterloo MotorsRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Uk-Ray Riddall
1987 WTCC
382.4 BMW M3Robert Walterscheid-M.MK MotorsportTBD1987 DTM
492.2t Volvo 240 TurboJorgen PoulsenJorgen PoulsenRound 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] France-Frank Verplanken1987 DTM
512.4 BMW M3Fabien GiroixAlpina Faltz EssenTBD1987 DTM
522.4 BMW M3Ellen LohrAlpina Faltz EssenTBD1987 DTM


Car Specs


CarWeightPowerGearboxFuel
BMW M31,030 kg300 HP5-speed120 litres
BMW 635 CSi1,240 kg335 HP5-speed100 litres
Ford Sierra RS1,140 kg370 HP5-speed120 litres
Rover Vitesse1,195 kg300 HP5-speed120 litres
Volvo 240 Turbo1,140 kg350 HP5-speed120 litres



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Bruno Chacon
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Rfactor2?
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N° 11 Ford Sierra -s'il vous plait ! merci. :conduit:

Round 2 - 1987 Norisring DTM [rF2 | February 5] Sirra10
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#8 rover please
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Bruno Chacon wrote:
Rfactor2?
Oui!
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#4 2.0t Ford Sierra RS :conduit:
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Ford sierra #7# svp
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#6 Ford Sierra RS
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:hello: N°17 2.0t Ford Sierra RS.
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I'll take the #49 taxi :conduit:
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Nr. 4 3.6 Rover Vitesse - Dennis Leech for me please Smile

Thank you
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#28, although as per wiki article, it appears as if Santal never drove a Sierra that season(Alfa and a BMW at the 24 Hours of Spa?) and Euromotorsport didn't even take part Shocked


I added the Norisring last night on the workshop and downloaded the the cars, installed them aswell.

Now my game won't load up a server online or load up offline mode, you guys broke my install! :aie: lol!
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Proves once again not only you shouldn't trust wikipedia as a source for motor racing history, you shouldn't even consult it Razz

Santal drove the #28 Euromotorsport Sierra RS at the 1987 Spa 24 Hours, alongside Roman Feitler and motocross legend Gaston Rahier.
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David Jundt wrote:
Now my game won't load up a server online or load up offline mode, you guys broke my install! :aie: lol!

Surely you set your "awesomeness filter" wrong and something broke with the influx of our blessed data Razz Laughing
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Frank Verplanken wrote:
Proves once again not only you shouldn't trust wikipedia as a source for motor racing history, you shouldn't even consult it Razz

Santal drove the #28 Euromotorsport Sierra RS at the 1987 Spa 24 Hours, alongside Roman Feitler and motocross legend Gaston Rahier.

Actually no, I read the Wiki slightly wrong last night and got the wrong car.

Only the team entry looks different from touringcarracing.net to the Wiki: It mentions Euromotorsport while the other says "Ford Motorsport Luxembourg" :hihi:

Well, they crashed out anyway :aie:


rF2 actually seems to hang up more often after added content, but you guys wouldn't know with your HSO only installs Razz
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Installs works again today, the game took switching between offline and online, and even then it took 10 minutes(!) of loading a server online before it woke up by itself and showed the car selection screen Rolling Eyes

Oh hey, car seems fun, even more than on rF2, maybe I drove too tame, the Sierra was quite bitchy when I used to drive in the WTM at Race Dep Laughing

And the yellow colour of the #28 stands out nicely Razz
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I hate to be that guy:
I love Norisring but this one is crazy. The hairpin does not feel right, I get the 'bumps' thing it but seriously that bad. Feels wrong.
Just thought I would put it out there...
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In what way? Feeling them? Or your view stuttering when driving over them?
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David Jundt wrote:
In what way? Feeling them? Or your view stuttering when driving over them?

Not sure, like on a wave pool - porpoising almost - down that small straight before the left hander onto the main straight.

But worse for me is the hairpin, I Hail Mary it into there every time!

TBH I have yet to find a sim that does very tight hairpins like that and Loews properly, even the best Nordschleife can't get the Carousel right IMO and I have driven it, and the transition is not as aggressive as it appears in sims.

The same with tight hairpins, feels wrong.

But I love it... just saying this one I am finding particularly fake. No complaints just sharing thoughts.

I am a fucking journo after all... LOL
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No ATCC cars?
If not can I have Andy Rouse no.8 please
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I didn't notice anything special with the bumps, but I guess FFB settings might be a factor here.

No ATCC cars because ideally we'd like to have DTM cars only. The few BTCC and WTCC entries are to replace real life cars missing in the mod. Actually some are not missing but ran in both the DTM and WTCC irl but are only featured in their WTCC trim (with their WTCC racing number) in the mod.

OK for #8 Rouse :top:
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Are there performance differences between the DTM Sierra and the WTCC version?
I have only driven the ATCC version
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Frank Verplanken wrote:
I didn't notice anything special with the bumps, but I guess FFB settings might be a factor here.

No ATCC cars because ideally we'd like to have DTM cars only. The few BTCC and WTCC entries are to replace real life cars missing in the mod. Actually some are not missing but ran in both the DTM and WTCC irl but are only featured in their WTCC trim (with their WTCC racing number) in the mod.

OK for #8 Rouse :top:
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Even the official Nordschleife by S397?

So, it's a FFB thing and not your view shuttering on any bump?

Hmm well, I never experienced the Norisring or driven a Sierra, so I probably can't put the finger on it.

There's an upgrade tab for the car in the car selection, the WTCC version has 370, the DTM 350 IIRC(horse power I mean)?


I personally use like 4-12 Smoothing(high sometimes because flat-spots make the G27 oscillate like crazy), 1.3 Mult in the controller setting, FFB min torque 6%, 20% steering rate, everything below that is 0%, I also turned off any effects that make my view shift "off".
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#13 ?
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