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Slight change of personnel: Michael Drechsler goes to #7, Ryan Walker the other way round to #6, and I'll be driving the #42 Porsche too.

This should be the last change. Sorry for the amount of work this gives you Jason. :D

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Wait, does that mean it would be possible to be featured on more than 2 cars, "unlimited" even?

In any case, you'll probably be dead after that race Juha :rigol:

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There's no limit on the number of cars for each driver, and there's no limit on the number of drivers in each car.

Thanks for your concern. I've got a 50 minute break somewhere during those 6 hours. :D

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Juha Bos wrote:
and there's no limit on the number of drivers in each car.


Well, we werent allowed to be four of us in one car...

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Raul Jereb wrote:
Juha Bos wrote:
and there's no limit on the number of drivers in each car.


Well, we werent allowed to be four of us in one car...

When was this?

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Richard Coxon wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:


Well, we werent allowed to be four of us in one car...

When was this?

I dont remember now, I should go through old events.. Silverston rings in my head, but Im not sure.

Timo, Thiago, James and me, we wonted to book 956 (only one), so we had to split in two cars.. later Thiago drop off, but nonthanless..

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Silverstone, but the words were "You won't all score points", not "you can't be 4 in one car." Unless it was specified later that 3 was the maximum?

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Raul Jereb wrote:
Richard Coxon wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:


Well, we werent allowed to be four of us in one car...

When was this?

I dont remember now, I should go through old events.. Silverston rings in my head, but Im not sure.

Timo, Thiago, James and me, we wonted to book 956 (only one), so we had to split in two cars.. later Thiago drop off, but nonthanless..

You initially wanted both 956's, i said you couldn't book both as per the rules. Then James wanted to put you all in one car and I responded as Juha said "You won't all score points" because there wasn't enough time in the race for you all to pass the 30% Mark to score points. Nothing about you couldn't have 4 in one car.

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Richard Coxon wrote:


You initially wanted both 956's, i said you couldn't book both as per the rules. Then James wanted to put you all in one car and I responded as Juha said "You won't all score points" because there wasn't enough time in the race for you all to pass the 30% Mark to score points. Nothing about you couldn't have 4 in one car.

Richard, I trully dont remember the situation any more.. it wasn't so importatn I think. I think that it was that we can be max of three drivers, but maybe I miss understood, it is quite possible.. I know there couldnt be points for all, but that was not so important to us.. its good to know that after all, it is possible to have more than four drivers.. you never know when its going to be needed again.. for us semi-seniors Razz

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Personally, I was just wondering on how many cars one driver could feature if he found enough co-drivers. So I guess "as many as on the entry list" would be the answer? lol!


Btw: Too bad Dome isn't on the entry list, but they didn't even contest their home event. The Nimrods and the Ultramar Lola could've been okay here aswell, but neither of them took part Sad


Btw: Did the Dick Barbour Porsche 935 contest any races in 1982? Can't find it in event results scratch

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We used that car to replace one of the American run 935's that we didn't or couldn't find a skin for.

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Garretson Development & Cooke Racing - B.P., since they both finished inside the Top 12 at Le Mans(although both are IMSA GTX, unlike Edgar Dören, Rennax Racing and Team Castrol Denmark)?


Just noticed again that the UFO Team is actually Claude Haldi's entry - DAMN :doh: Should've picked that Porsche :D

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The icing on the cake would have been some of those japanese silhouette monsters :D

Though I don't think they actually competed in the WEC event, what I found on a quick search looks a bit more tame. Also its a shame the Lancia is the only Gr.6 car in the mod, there were usually a lot of the local March specials at Fuji Smile

Found that lil' gem. Smile


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There was also a shed load of Osella's at every other race in the group 6 class.

The race clip you mentioned is the same as what Fillipo Marrazzi posted in the paddock.  Smile

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Nice find Michael!

It looks a completely different track from the incar images in the second part. Turn 1 is completely inaccurate in the VLM version.

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Full race here for anyone that is interested.

Filippo Marazzi wrote:
1982 WEC in Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxohv0En_xU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9BNWoI6yRA&list=PL59CB4104D3F3BB30&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgoBP76A8t8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcvrg-OlMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMQGD_oDaug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBQUBBx0GyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muvh0YHDhPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDOBSO1mg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GAvfOVw8tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFijzN4I7jA

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Apparently, I'm not always paying close attention to certain threads Wink

Yeah, some Osellas and Lolas in Gr.6 would indeed be a nice addition Smile

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Richard Coxon wrote:
There was also a shed load of Osella's at every other race in the group 6 class.

For example the Franchia/Moreschi and Facetti cars were showing some good pace, both cars managed Top Six results at some point.

Some of these cars are quite intesting, like the Elan and Aston Martin "Specials" aswell as the Momo-Porsche by Moretti/Baldi.

The front of the RX-7 look a bit different than the model we have, no?

And those 280Z racing in 1982, nice!


Are we really on the '82 version? The first turn has a steep decline right after it, apart from T1 being a kink, it does look off.

There's also a lot more trees at the track and you can barely see a chicane on the real onboard video.

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I had a quick look, the chicanes were introduced in 1983 (the one on the last turn) and 1987, and the layout of the first corner is more like the one introduced in 1986. Before, T1 was a single apex turn.

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
I had a quick look, the chicanes were introduced in 1983 (the one on the last turn) and 1987, and the layout of the first corner is more like the one introduced in 1986. Before, T1 was a single apex turn.

According to simracing media, VLM made a '82, '90 and '93 version "all-in-one" release.

So does that mean they kinda... "took liberties" when making those versions?


Oh btw: Are the Lancia drivers using the "nose update" for Fuji?

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The RX-7 we have is the 1981 version, and some took part in 1982 too.

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According to this, the VLM '82 version isn't entirely right...


...but then, we drove the '82 Ring race on the '83 layout, so what?

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Richard Wilks wrote:
The RX-7 we have is the 1981 version, and some took part in 1982 too.

Even before the Miata pop-up lights, they made cars that kinda looked cute/funny.


But all these versions are nothing and pale in comparison to the pre-76 version with the banking, oh boi oh boi oh boi :D

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Porsche #60
Philippe Henrique
Victor Montenegro
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Cláudio Augusto wrote:
Porsche #60
Philippe Henrique
Victor Montenegro
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