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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 11:56

Timo Vermeersch wrote:
About Montjuic: did we ever do a GPL 1969 championship here?Timo

No we only used it once I think, for the 1972 Tour de France with HGTTC. We hated the 1969 mod of GPL so the 1969 F1 season was never an option here Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 11:57

Alberto Ibañez wrote:
I'm certainly not going to try to defend the Valencia circuit (AKA the snooze fest Sleep ) in this discussion  :hihi:

Valencia as such is a great city though: the beach at la Malvrosa or Saler, the old city, sipping Aqua di Valencia's... Great great place.

And probably the only city in the world to have both a street course and a permanent circuit.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:09

Timo Vermeersch wrote:
And probably the only city in the world to have both a street course and a permanent circuit.Timo

There have been several in the past and are still a few around like Pau (street + Pau-Arnos) for instance Wink.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:23

Did someone ever create the original Vila Real for rFactor? Even in the 80s it looked quite primitive with spectators lining up to watch from their front doors.

The footage at 9.18, you wouldn't want to stand there do you? :D


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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:28

I think it was converted from GPL ? Although the 1980s version might be a shorter layout than the one used in the 1960s and 1970s and featured in GPL I'm not sure. Some awesome races, particularly for 2-litre sportscars, back in the day there :top:

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:37

My father raced there. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:42

Nice :top: Was that in the 1970s ? The portuguese scene was great back then, with lots of races on home soil and in the African colonies as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 12:53

In 1986 even. Smile but you are correct about the colonies, he was born in Angola and spent his youth there and there were many high profile races.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 15:31

That kind of courses are definitely not my favourites. And they were all to popular in the US back in these days.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 16:37

funny is that even in our country there was quite a number of town circuits in the past...even here in my town there were some motorcycle racing in sixties and seventies. Now in Brno they want to start one tradition again - race between exibithion grounds...I always like these simple circuits for racing



btw. I am affreid I am quite off topic...so..any ride for me??? lol! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 16:41

That's how every circuit should be made : a few hay balls to protect the trees and lamposts from being damaged, a bit of black & white paint on the kerbs, throw in a good viewing spot for timing and scoring, a couple of marshall posts here and a grandstand or two there, and off you go ! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 16:53

Alberto Ibañez wrote:
, softer suspension and crank up the wings as necessary.

I have a question about wings. I'm use to changing springs, bars, tire pressures, camber and shocks to change balance and grip.
Its not clear to me when to start cranking on the wings. Besides adding drag I've also observed that increasing the wing will also heat up the tires. Is this correct? Is the fine tuning done with the bars first and then the wings? In theory I know its foolish to change multiple components because it makes it very difficult to determine which change helped and which change didn't help. I'm not sure when to adjust the wings.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 16:57

because this is road circiut i am interested in drive too

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 17:30

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
, softer suspension and crank up the wings as necessary.

I have a question about wings.  I'm use to changing springs, bars, tire pressures, camber and shocks to change balance and grip.
Its not clear to me when to start cranking on the wings. Besides adding drag I've also observed that increasing the wing will also heat up the tires.  Is this correct?   Is the fine tuning done with the bars first and then the wings?   In theory I know its foolish to change multiple components because it makes it very difficult to determine which change helped and which change didn't help. I'm not sure when to adjust the wings.

Wings is what I touch the most and what I've found makes the biggest difference. It is what I fine tune first of all. If understeer, more front. If oversteer, more rear. It is when you are obviously too slow down the straights that things get tricky. Then you have to lower the wings, especially the rear wing, and find another way to get driveability.

But always: if you are spinning out too much, less rear anti-rollbar, more rear wing. Driveability and not causing accidents is priority #1. Understeer you can live with.

That goes for everyone in this field. This is a tight track, I don't want racing time wasted behind the safety car or being caught up in someone else's BS.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 18:02

Wings -and aero in general- matter when you are going at higher speeds, say 80 MPH and above. Below that speed, it's mostly suspension. So if you are having traction or balance problems in the hairpin, or at turns 1 and 2, or even at the new inside section, it is mostly suspension what can help you. That is not to say that aero is not relevant. It is, but once you have the proper aero balance for high speed, whatever shortcomings appear at slow speed you must solve working with the suspension. At high speeds the wings rule, and suspension work will almost be unnoticeable there (Except at ovals) but at slow speeds you bet it has a clear effect.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 20:08

I'm in.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 22:46

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That's how every circuit should be made : a few hay balls to protect the trees and lamposts from being damaged, a bit of black & white paint on the kerbs, throw in a good viewing spot for timing and scoring, a couple of marshall posts here and a grandstand or two there, and off you go ! Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Tue 4 Apr 2017 - 23:24

:conduit: But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 9:57

:conduit: :top: Present

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 10:17

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:conduit:     But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

Awwwh why did you postpone the family dinner? I could have had your car ;-;

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 14:15

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:conduit:     But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

Awwwh why did you postpone the family dinner? I could have had your car ;-;

I have a contract with March...not with my family :rigol:

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 15:22

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Peter Blom wrote:
:conduit:     But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

Awwwh why did you postpone the family dinner? I could have had your car ;-;

I have a contract with March...not with my family :rigol:

you are brave man!! without contract (even only spoken) I would never come back home lol! lol! lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 15:35

Peter Blom wrote:
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Peter Blom wrote:
:conduit:     But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

Awwwh why did you postpone the family dinner? I could have had your car ;-;

I have a contract with March...not with my family :rigol:

Don't forget your contract with Jiffy cake mix  :slurp:

         

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 16:36

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without contract (even only spoken) I would never come back home

You? You don't even have a contract with your girl as you are not married :rigol:

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grand Prix of Long Beach [Apr 16th]   Wed 5 Apr 2017 - 17:27

Jason White wrote:
Peter Blom wrote:
Pascal Mikula wrote:
Peter Blom wrote:
:conduit:     But I had to postpone an easter family dinner for it. Next time it should be given more thought. Easter and Christmas should not be raceweekends imo :bangry:

Awwwh why did you postpone the family dinner? I could have had your car ;-;

I have a contract with March...not with my family :rigol:

Don't forget your contract with Jiffy cake mix  :slurp:

         

True Jason but to give some inside info on my relationship with the Jiffy company: I made some critical remarks on their cake products on HSO Television Network...50/50 chance they are going to terminate my contract! Not to worried by that...they do not pay very well :antoine:

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