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 **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**

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Dana Schurer
Mike Becnel
François Remmen
Jacob Fredriksson
Richard Wilks
Guillaume Siebert
Alberto Ibañez
Matthias Weber
Dylan Canton
Richard Coxon
Jan Kowalski
Raul Jereb
Jason White
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Raymond Riddall
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Raymond Riddall


Number of posts : 329
Age : 61
Location : England
Registration date : 2015-08-03

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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 17 May 2016 - 18:42

Ok, I've just driven the 936 and what a massive improvement, much more stable, no more understeer into snap oversteer no more driving on a knife edge, I'm already a second quicker at Asus and 5 sec faster at Hockenhein .One small problem, I'm not driving it any more. Sad

Good job though guys. :clap:
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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


Number of posts : 1189
Age : 23
Location : Classic Motorsport Hub
Registration date : 2016-01-04

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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 18 May 2016 - 16:02

I must say, after the Avus race and my swap to the Porsche 936C, I've never driven this car before until the physics update. Holy shi* I love this car! :D And I must say, I'm pretty surprised that I'm second (at the time) concerning hotlaps Wink
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 18 May 2016 - 23:23

Just a quick FYI, the HSO server is offline at the moment.  I will post here when it is back up again.
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François Remmen
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François Remmen


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Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 18 May 2016 - 23:31

just a note

the q tires are back in the new ( superb ) physics
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 19 May 2016 - 0:01

I know, their wear has been corrected. And thanks!
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Jason White
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Jason White


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 19 May 2016 - 11:21

The server is back online now Smile
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 20 May 2016 - 22:22

Are we alowed to use Qualy tyres now?
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 20 May 2016 - 22:42

You are, they won't last the race if you put them on now (i hope).
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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


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Richard Wilks wrote:
You are, they won't last the race if you put them on now (i hope).
Qualy Tires last around about 5-6 laps until they are below 80% health (as far as I can tell from my driving with the 936C)
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 21 May 2016 - 0:04

i had about the same results as Pascal M. 80% and gone.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 24 May 2016 - 22:34

I've only done a session at Mainz-Finthen to get a feel for the car and get a setup done.

Although the cirucit isn't the perfect circuit to try out the new physics (as it was high-speed instability that was the biggest issue as far as I could understand the discussions going on), my view so far is limited.


The car seems to have more weight to it which makes it feel more stable. I can't really say that it felt much different in any other regard, still the same speed as before, maybe a tenth or so quicker at Mainz, but otherwhise it would seem to be the same CK5 I've driven for most of the season.

The CK5 may have been one of the lesser changed cars in the mod but I wouldn't know as I wasn't part of the team.

At another circuit I may have a different view though but for now, that is what I've found scratch
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 24 May 2016 - 23:11

Try it at Zolder Wink

Or try the new one and then go back and try the old physics
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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


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Registration date : 2016-03-11

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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 26 May 2016 - 20:36

Is that on purpose I have only hard tires as option now?
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 26 May 2016 - 20:47

Yes Michael, EMKA was a small privateer team in 1983 who entered only 2 races that season, Silverstone, which was a glorified test session for Le Mans and Le Mans itself. The fact the car runs with no Dunlop decals on their car suggests that they just bought the basic hard tires needed to complete the races. Plus at Le Mans, the aim for them was to make their fuel consumption last as much as possible, so they would only need hard tires that lasted a long time.

I am now in the same position with the Alba, i had all 3 compounds, but now i only have hard tires too.

Too add to, do not worry about being at a disadvantage, we have made the soft tires wear much more realistically, especially if the driver is hard on them.

I'm sure Richard Wilks will also be able to add more info on the subject too.
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


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Indeed Richard summarized it perfectly, softer compounds were rarely used, and it was a bit hit and miss in terms of making them last, so most teams, specially privateer ones, only used the hards.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


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PostSubject: Re: **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS**   **1983 DRM - UPDATED PHYSICS** - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 26 May 2016 - 22:16

I took the CK5 for a spin around Bathurst (one of my preffered testing circuits for faster cars).

I had a nice time blasting around the circuit and found a couple of things when running laps.

At high speed the CK5 is more stable, more controllable. I suppose that is down to the body/wings now actually producing downforce.

It's a pain in slow corners since it, at least feels like, has more weight to it now than before, before it was a fairly easy car to haul around turns.

On power it's more planted, you can still get it sideways if you really "muck" about but generally it's very nice to the driver.

Only difference with the brakes is that I know need 47/53 or more rearward brake balance to not lock the fronts, so technically the brakes brakes less but are maybe a bit more consistent scratch


Overall, a nice improvement, though hard to discern without running many laps on a known circuit for me, to the car. Especially the fact that the car now doesn't immedietly throw you sideways if you put just a bit of throttle on, that was the biggest issue of the CK5, especially out of slower turns like the AVUS hairpin  :chinois:
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