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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 16:46

For the record, we did review the incident where Mikula turned into Martinelli's path.  Based on the visual evidence in the replay, it appears to be due to driver error, not an intentional move on his part. The De Cadenet is a very difficult car to drive, especially under braking, and if the driver does not downshift properly, a sudden loss of control, like the one that he apparently experienced, can occur.

If the action was voluntary, than yes, we could sanction Mikula, but it appears that he was simply caught out by the eccentricities of the car.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:30

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Philippe Martinelli wrote:
"Horrible en qualif" c'est de l'humour ou j'ai fais quelque chose de mal...?

Not you!! HIM (Pascal)!!!!! The guy who took you out!! I was relieved when Pascal retired. I was unhappy to see you retired as we were having a great battle. Your launch out of turn 1 on the outside was flawless. I could not match you on the inside. I planned to pass you in the final turn before the main straightaway. When we caught Pascal you will notice I backed off. Had I not both of us would have been taken out in the accident he caused.

Horrible in qualifying? Excuse me, but when I'm on a fast lap, do you think I leave my racing line to let you pass in the last turn, especially where the track gets so tight because of the pits? Also at least you're right with the physics! About every time I put the brakes on in the Nordkurve, the car pulled to the left! But even in qualifying, you hit me when I was doing a fast lap AND I was on the way of even gaining positions but OKAY it's all now because I'm suuuuuuuuuuuch a horrible driver.. I see where that is going, thanks but no thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:41

Pascal Mikula wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
Philippe Martinelli wrote:
"Horrible en qualif" c'est de l'humour ou j'ai fais quelque chose de mal...?

Not you!! HIM (Pascal)!!!!! The guy who took you out!! I was relieved when Pascal retired. I was unhappy to see you retired as we were having a great battle. Your launch out of turn 1 on the outside was flawless. I could not match you on the inside. I planned to pass you in the final turn before the main straightaway. When we caught Pascal you will notice I backed off. Had I not both of us would have been taken out in the accident he caused.

Horrible in qualifying? Excuse me, but when I'm on a fast lap, do you think I leave my racing line to let you pass in the last turn, especially where the track gets so tight because of the pits? Also at least you're right with the physics! About every time I put the brakes on in the Nordkurve, the car pulled to the left! But even in qualifying, you hit me when I was doing a fast lap AND I was on the way of even gaining positions but OKAY it's all now because I'm suuuuuuuuuuuch a horrible driver.. I see where that is going, thanks but no thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:43

Don't be offended Pascal, you are probably misunderstanding some of the comments. You are not slow or bad in car control, but you still lack experience and there is no shame in that Smile Nobody here is born with experience -some are with amazing talents, but nobody with experience. The DeCadenet is a horrible car, and all admins have agreeded that it was not your fault to lose control of it in those circumstances. If anything, you have maybe been too optimistic about the car's capabilities on some ocasions, but that is normal.

Look at the average age here and you will understand that people tend to have another vision of racing than you might have. Can you imagine what a league of teenagers is like? It's a massive embarassment on the track, because all are full of youth and exhuberance Smile You are welcomed to race here, you are different because you are young and I like seeing young people enjoy historic racing and becoming involved on it. But the other side of the coin is that you must watch and learn, don't let your enthusiasm get in the way. In some time I'm sure you will be a great guy to bang wheels with - but be patient. First rule here is: Enjoy your stay and ensure the others around you do.

Now on to train for the next race :conduit:


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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:46

But I still want to spank you LOL

I love your live streams. I have laughed my --- off at your reactions in some races.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:47

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

Look at the average age here and you will understand that people tend to have another vision of racing than you might have. Can you imagine what a league of teenagers is like? It's a massive embarassment on the track, because all are full of youth and exhuberance  Smile You are welcomed to race here, you are different because you are young and I like seeing young people enjoy historic racing and becoming involved on it. But the other side of the coin is that you must watch and learn, don't let your enthusiasm get in the way. In some time I'm sure you will be a great guy to bang wheels with - but be patient. First rule here is: Enjoy your stay and ensure the others around you do.

Very nice words of wisdom! :clap:
Even, Im a little bit embaressed with my T1 victorious exit!
Now its a bit less painfull.
Thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:49

I meant to tell you, Raul -- congrats on your first pole and your first fastest lap Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:52

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I meant to tell you, Raul  -- congrats on your first pole and your first fastest lap Very Happy

Haha, OhNo Jason, thank you, youre very kind.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:54

Hi , as Jason said this track did not suit the 936, and I don't see it being competitive anywhere else , being caught and passed buy the junior class is a bit embarrassing especially through the last corner where this car turned into a horse drawn carriage with squeaking sound effects to boot lol! , seriously though I just want to race people and I can't in this car.

Well done Mike and poduim.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:54

Pascal suffered from the massive engine brake effect the mod seems to suffer there. I think the admins were right in their judgement. I also blame more the current physics then Pascal here, and we have been looking into it lately.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:55

Raul Jereb wrote:
Jason White wrote:
I meant to tell you, Raul  -- congrats on your first pole and your first fastest lap Very Happy

Haha, OhNo Jason, thank you, youre very kind.



Need to get me one of these.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:56

You are from now on Jasohno White :rigol:

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 18:57

My artistic side seemed to have caused the scoring glitch?! Anyway, I got this shot from the grid:


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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 19:07

Jason White wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:
Jason White wrote:
I meant to tell you, Raul  -- congrats on your first pole and your first fastest lap Very Happy


Haha, OhNo Jason, thank you, youre very kind.



Need to get me one of these.
I expect to see it in July Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 19:10

Could admins suggest the Mainz-Finthen track download which is to be used for next race?
I need to practice T1 exits :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 20:21

Raul Jereb wrote:
Could admins suggest the Mainz-Finthen track download which is to be used for next race?
I need to practice T1 exits :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nobody practice for the next race yet. Per Richard above we are working on something. I call it an exorcism of snap oversteer demons. Legion is headed to the swine.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 20:30

Hi, actually I've had very little time to prepare for the race, as I am very busy in some business finally finished next week and I think I can have a little more time.

About the race, I do not quite understand what happened, because when I reached Raul and were fighting I think for third place, a driver with a lost lap joined this fight. At first I thought he had not noticed, but overtaking Raul I touched him unintentionally, so I waited and returned him the position, and what was my surprise when the slow pilot also took the opportunity to pass me ... and from there began to behave shutting the door as if I were disputing the position to the point we hit that caused my retirement.

Is it right to contest the position when you have lost several laps with pilots who are disputing victory or podium?  Question  scratch

greetings, 10 to the organization and I hope the next best .... I go bye





Hola , la verdad que he tenido muy poco tiempo para preparar la carrera , ya que estoy muy liado en unos asuntos que por fin terminaran la semana que viene y creo que podre disponer de un poquito mas de tiempo.

Sobre la carrera , no entiendo bien lo que sucedió , ya que cuando me alcanzo Raul y estábamos luchando creo que por la tercera plaza, un piloto con vuelta perdida se unió a esta lucha , al principio pensé que no se había dado cuenta , pero en un adelantamiento a Raúl le di un pequeño toque sin querer , y mas adelante lo espere para devolverle la posición , y cual fue mi sorpresa cuando el piloto que comentaba antes doblado también aprovecho para pasarme y ... a partir de ahi empezo a comportarse cerrando huecos y demas como si me estuviera disputando la posición , hasta el punto que tuvimos un fuerte golpe el cual por sus consecuencias termino en mi accidente y posterior abandono
¿es correcto disputar la posición cuando llevas varias vueltas perdidas a pilotos que se están jugando la victoria o el podium?   Question  scratch

saludos , un 10 a la organización y espero que la próxima me vaya mejor....chao

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 20:40

Jose, he editado la parte de tu mensaje en inglés para que la traducción sea mas correcta, espero que no te importe. El piloto lento no podía hacer eso, ha recibido una sanción en la próxima carrera por el accidente.

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José I edited the english part of your message to make the translation more correct, I hope you dont mind. The slow driver could not do that, he got a penalty for next race for causing the accident.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 3 - Avus (Apr 24th)   Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 21:02

Gracias Alberto

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