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 Round 3 - Grand Prix de Belgique [May 18th]

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Mick Chapman
Alex Barresi
Pascal Le pihive
Yves Plaçais
Dave Miller
Guillaume Siebert
Teemu Toikka
Jean-François Bovy
Alex Yaushev
Alan Lopez
Gérard Ryon
Florkin Marc
Martin Audran
Glenn Corliss
Chris Tarboton
Mark Barresi
Cyril Derkir
Jean-louis Petillot
Steve Parker
Jason White
Leo Menegucci
Richard Coxon
François Remmen
Peter Blom
Vincent Beretta
Mike Becnel
Austin Johnson
Ben Paulet
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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


Number of posts : 2000
Age : 64
Location : England uk
Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Austin Johnson wrote:
It was aimed at u yes, im sry im just a little bumed out. I know it wasent intentional but we only had 3 laps to go and i drove my ass off with spray in my face for 27 laps. And i dont recall hitting you love tap is more like it. I never touched you in a breaking point or in a corner i didnt even try to pass you , the one time i did you pinched me in the dirt but its fine. Other than that it was a fantastic and fun race track is awesome great job.

I CAN assure you m8 i would never brake test anybody,everybody that knows me will vouch for that,i can see why you were bummed about it,but maybe being so close in braking zone didnt help with worn tyres and brakes near end of hard race,like you said was great race  :drink: 
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Alex Barresi
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Alex Barresi


Number of posts : 76
Age : 56
Location : Palermo, Italy
Registration date : 2013-12-03

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Steve Parker wrote:
Alex Barresi wrote:
CLAIM
I ask to Race Direction (if there is one) to be classified 5th, my real final position.
Rfactor give me an invalid "blue flag ignored" penalty when Parker reach me at 2 laps from the end, but i do nothing to obstacle him, simply he was slow because race was ending (i was lapped, calmy, in last lap, after Eau Rouge).

I Confirm alexs claim,my engine was nearly dead and was waiting for safe place to pass so i had backed off on throttle  :top: 

Thanks Steve :top: , at least one that dont offend me because i talk about a race event.
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Mike Becnel
Racing Legend
Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Alex Barresi wrote:
CLAIM
I ask to Race Direction (if there is one) to be classified 5th, my real final position.
Rfactor give me an invalid "blue flag ignored" penalty when Parker reach me at 2 laps from the end, but i do nothing to obstacle him, simply he was slow because race was ending (i was lapped, calmy, in last lap, after Eau Rouge).

Edit: Send a PM to Martin.
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Austin Johnson
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Austin Johnson


Number of posts : 814
Age : 34
Location : Northern California
Registration date : 2013-01-14

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Steve Parker wrote:
Austin Johnson wrote:
It was aimed at u yes, im sry im just a little bumed out. I know it wasent intentional but we only had 3 laps to go and i drove my ass off with spray in my face for 27 laps. And i dont recall hitting you love tap is more like it. I never touched you in a breaking point or in a corner i didnt even try to pass you , the one time i did you pinched me in the dirt but its fine. Other than that it was a fantastic and fun race track is awesome great job.

I CAN assure you m8 i would never brake test anybody,everybody that knows me will vouch for that,i can see why you were bummed about it,but maybe being so close in braking zone didnt help with worn tyres and brakes near end of hard race,like you said was great race  :drink: 


Yea it was awesome for shure, we were flying. I didnt think i was gonna be able to keep pace with you guys affter seeing your q times. I guess full fuel really slows down the cars?
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Chris Tarboton
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Number of posts : 74
Age : 50
Location : South Africa
Registration date : 2014-04-21

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My first race with these cars and what a track. It excellent and I really enjoyed my time in the Parnell vehicle.

The fact that I qualied for the race just about sums up qualy. I was terrified I was going to get knocked out. Anyway, I only saw that I had made it late on Sunday after taking an unexpected trip away for the weekend, so after a tiring weekend and a drive back home sunday afternoon, I was tired to say the least.

Anyway, got knocked out on the first lap all my fault really. The chicane on the back straight I usually only lift for and I was following, rather too closely it turned out, some guys into the chicane who braked. I lost the car and hit the house and that was that. I hope I didnt do too much damage to anybody but sorry in advance if I did.

Really good fun and thanks for having me.
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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Leo Menegucci wrote:

I'm so sorry about that Yves

I wasn't trying to block your pass. I was actually overtaking peter

Don't be so sore about it, writing me private and stuff. When you took me out in two consecutive races with the 70's sportscar, both on the first lap, one of them by ramming my rear in a plain strait, I rebmember being much more sportsmanlike about you  Evil or Very Mad 

No problem, Leo ! I was very angry because I thought it was a deliberate action on your part, but this is not the case!

No, no I have not forgotten those two races sports car. Embarassed 

But this wet race at Spa was probably the most exciting time of the year, and I was very disappointed to leave the race after thirty seconds.

But it is already forgotten !  :drink:


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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Yves Plaçais wrote:
Leo Menegucci wrote:

I'm so sorry about that Yves

I wasn't trying to block your pass. I was actually overtaking peter

Don't be so sore about it, writing me private and stuff. When you took me out in two consecutive races with the 70's sportscar, both on the first lap, one of them by ramming my rear in a plain strait, I rebmember being much more sportsmanlike about you  Evil or Very Mad 

No problem, Leo!

No, no I have not forgotten those two races sports car. Embarassed 

But this wet race at Spa was probably the most exciting time of the year, and I was very disappointed to leave the race after thirty seconds.

But it is already forgotten !  :drink: 
Nice behavior guys.:drink: 
Indeed, it's always difficult to be out in the earlier moments of a race that we waited it since a long time. :frank: 
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Ben, has there been a ruling on the Alex's blue flag penalty?   Question
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Jason White wrote:
Ben, has there been a ruling on the Alex's blue flag penalty?   Question
I didn't see the replay, so I can't take a decision. And we have to take into consideration the post of Steve. :frank: 
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If the blue flag rule is activated, it's for reason, isn't it ? scratch 
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François Remmen
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François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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VT  :first: , what a reward of driving my own spa and get also 2 champ points
( ignoring a blue flag is just ignore the rules  :doh: ) thanks Alex  lol! 

A great thrill to drive it with all great chaps here around HSO sharing the same passion
very pleased you guys liked and enjoyed it.

cya at Clermont Ferand

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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Tentative results posted here.  :flag: 

I will fix the replay tonight. Seems I dropped in a bad link.


Tentative pending the decision on Alex's request.

I am not able to modify the Von T points - please stand by for an update later.

Grats Mr. Parker on the win and thank you to all who raced! Was fun while it lasted for me! Dang black holes!!  :aie:


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Leo Menegucci
Club Driver
Leo Menegucci


Number of posts : 89
Age : 48
Location : Brazil
Registration date : 2012-07-08

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Ben Paulet wrote:
Yves Plaçais wrote:
Leo Menegucci wrote:

I'm so sorry about that Yves

I wasn't trying to block your pass. I was actually overtaking peter

Don't be so sore about it, writing me private and stuff. When you took me out in two consecutive races with the 70's sportscar, both on the first lap, one of them by ramming my rear in a plain strait, I rebmember being much more sportsmanlike about you  Evil or Very Mad 

No problem, Leo!

No, no I have not forgotten those two races sports car. Embarassed 

But this wet race at Spa was probably the most exciting time of the year, and I was very disappointed to leave the race after thirty seconds.

But it is already forgotten !  :drink: 
Nice behavior guys.:drink: 
Indeed, it's always difficult to be out in the earlier moments of a race that we waited it since a long time. :frank: 

Be sure I'll be much more careful next time. I hate when I do such things to others.

Same goes to Alex. You closed on me and passed so fast, but then at malmedy you braked much earlier than my braking point I couldn't avoid. I thought you would be much faster through that section, I misjudged your speed. Maybe you had some problem with your car. So sorry again
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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I watched for the replay. Not easy to take a decision about this blue flag. The penalty of the blue flag seems, for me, maybe a little few harsh. The track is very rolling and fast, so the gap of time between both cars is little, but the gap in meters is long.
He had plenty of time to let him pass and it would have had no impact on the race. Alex had the possibility to let overtake Steve to the turn of "La Source", but he has prefered to let him pass after "Eau rouge".
In other case, we can see JL Petillot, in the same case, but he didn't hesitate to slowdown to let pass Alex, in a first time and Steve in a second.
I let Martin take the decision, but it will not be available for the week due to distant work. :frank:


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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Will fix the replay tonight. Not sure how I managed to bork that up!
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Alex Barresi
Club Driver
Alex Barresi


Number of posts : 76
Age : 56
Location : Palermo, Italy
Registration date : 2013-12-03

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Leo Menegucci wrote:

Same goes to Alex. You closed on me and passed so fast, but then at malmedy you braked much earlier than my braking point I couldn't avoid. I thought you would be much faster through that section, I misjudged your speed. Maybe you had some problem with your car. So sorry again
No problem Leo :top: , i know you're a correct driver, i dont think youre wrong in that point and you dont need to excuse.
My line at Malmedy was very conservative :smil20:  (slow in and fast out), this is cause of contact.
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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


Number of posts : 2000
Age : 64
Location : England uk
Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Austin Johnson wrote:
Steve Parker wrote:
Austin Johnson wrote:
It was aimed at u yes, im sry im just a little bumed out. I know it wasent intentional but we only had 3 laps to go and i drove my ass off with spray in my face for 27 laps. And i dont recall hitting you love tap is more like it. I never touched you in a breaking point or in a corner i didnt even try to pass you , the one time i did you pinched me in the dirt but its fine. Other than that it was a fantastic and fun race track is awesome great job.

I CAN assure you m8 i would never brake test anybody,everybody that knows me will vouch for that,i can see why you were bummed about it,but maybe being so close in braking zone didnt help with worn tyres and brakes near end of hard race,like you said was great race  :drink: 


Yea it was awesome for shure, we were flying. I didnt think i was gonna be able to keep pace with you guys affter seeing your q times. I guess full fuel really slows down the cars?

Not so much fuel slows you down as fragile ferrari engine,had to run longer 5th gear so as not to overheat it,engine was in the yellow last 3 laps,so backed off,qualy i can let it rip lol,unfortunately when i backed off was when alex got his blue flag  Crying or Very sad 
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Will fix the replay tonight. Not sure how I managed to bork that up!

Replay issue fixed.  cheers 
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Austin Johnson
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Austin Johnson


Number of posts : 814
Age : 34
Location : Northern California
Registration date : 2013-01-14

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Does anyone have a link to charade? I think i should run some laps there iv never driven on that track i dont want to be a rolling chicane for the next race. Another quik question what is the points format for this series?
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Should be in the F1 Sixties track pack Austin if you downloaded it for Spa, If not :

http://trippteamdownload.servegame.com:100/RFACTOR1/TRACK%20PACKS/S-Z/SixtiesTracks%20by%20FDsign_2014.rar
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Austin Johnson
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Austin Johnson


Number of posts : 814
Age : 34
Location : Northern California
Registration date : 2013-01-14

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Richard Coxon wrote:
Should be in the F1 Sixties track pack Austin if you downloaded it for Spa, If not :

http://trippteamdownload.servegame.com:100/RFACTOR1/TRACK%20PACKS/S-Z/SixtiesTracks%20by%20FDsign_2014.rar


Oh ok its in the track pack. Sry i forgot it was more than 1 track..... :chinois: 
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About the points, it's the same in each HSO championship : it's in the rules.
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Austin Johnson
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Austin Johnson


Number of posts : 814
Age : 34
Location : Northern California
Registration date : 2013-01-14

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Ty JP  :top: 
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


Number of posts : 5553
Age : 38
Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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World Driver's Championship, Constructor Cup and Von Trips Tropy are updated  Wink 
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
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Shame the game didn't remember my pole time for the Von Tripps trophy  :smil20: 

Never mind  Rolling Eyes 
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