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Jason White
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 14:13

In order to properly represent the South African series, you will need additional models.  Having the Lola stand in for the Modus and others is, in my opinion, not a good idea.  If I were you I would touch base with David Sabre on this; he is the original author of the 76 Atlantic mod.  At least get his formal permission to modify it for a South African series.

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Eric Daon
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 15:20

Several problems:
I do not know what the original mod cars
should the agreement David Sabre and modders of HSO
I do not know how the 3DO and physics, or add the car mod
All that ask a lot of time, I'm not sure it is justified
Especially if we want to be thorough, should other changes (eg Ralt1 Charlton was not the usual aileron, Wheatcroft Nieman had the nose of March, the chevron Y Domingo no back cover etc. ...)

That's why I thought to use Lola is not used the car most similar.


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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 15:33

I would offer to help with modeling, but I am currently focused on the 1973 Indy mod.  Ideally, I shouldn't be taking on other modeling work until it is done.  Do you know anyone else who has modeling capability?

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Eric Daon
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 15:50

scratch ... David Sabre .
and Guillaume for Physics , :hihi:
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 16:30

Its a interesting idea to expand the number of 1976 FA cars. From what I can tell the Palliser did not race much, I think that it would be better to have a March 74B where the March 75B could be used as a base with a different cockpit surround. Also a Chevron B29 is not very different to a Chevron B34 (IIRC), a Chevron B25 would also be nice. There were probably some old Brabhams around aswell.
The Modus and Wheatcroft would have to be new body models, depending on free time, work on other mods etc, these two models would take 2 - 3 months to make. I guess that you could run a series with the mod now and then again if new models are added.
I think that adding new models depends on how much interest there is in the sim racing community as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 17:09

Yes the solution may be in a first time to finish carset as expected, to propose explaining the "approximations" made ​​by asking whether a updated mod with more cars desired.
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 17:47

In fact, the ideal would be to propose an extension with the March 77B which transform the mod to "Formula Atlantic 1976 and 1977"

with March 74B & 77B , Chevron B25 , B29  , B34 & B39 , Modus M3 and Wheatcroft

( so could redo the New Zealand season 77  , the UK , North  America and RSA seasons 76 &77 )
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 20:00

Well, you may aswell add the Lola T360 to the list.
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon 28 Oct 2013 - 20:22

so , Formula Atlantic 1975 to 1977 geek 
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Chevron n°20 Gilles Villeneuve Team Valvoline
March n°21 Bobby Scott Team Sportsman Lager


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March n°31 Dave Charlton Team Lucky Strike

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RALT n°5 Roy Klomfass (1976) Team Gunston


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March76B , Mike Domingo

someone you have an idea for the colors of the car ?
and the inscription: BODY CR ....... ?
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Oct 2013 - 22:38

"Body Craft"

See here for a nice colour picture Wink

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Marcelo Aiello
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Oct 2013 - 22:44

1977 South African Formula Atlantic Championship table
1 Ian Scheckter March 77B - Ford BDA Nicholson 63 pts 6 wins
2 Roy Klomfass March 77B - Ford BDA Swindon 54 pts 4 wins
3 Tony Martin Chevron B39 - Ford BDA Nicholson 36 pts 1 win
4 Nols Nieman Wheatcroft R18 -Ford BDA NicholsonMarch 77B - Ford BDA 33 pts 1 win
5 Len Booysen March 76B - Ford BDA 25 pts
6 Dave Charlton March 76B - Ford BDA Swindon 23 pts
7 Bobby Scott March 77B - Ford BDA 20 pts
8 John Gibb March 77B - Ford BDA Swindon 18 pts
9= Basil van Rooyen Chevron B34 - Ford BDA Swindon 8 pts
9= Kevin Stopford Modus M3 - Ford BDA Nicholson 8 pts
11 Gilles Villeneuve Chevron B39 - Ford BDA Swindon 6 pts
12= Evan Boddy Chevron B34 - Ford BDA Nicholson 2 pts
12= Rupert Keegan March 77B - Ford BDA Swindon 2 pts
14= Mike Domingo March 76B - Ford BDA 1 pts
14= Grant Maben Wheatcroft R18 - Ford BDA Nicholson 1 pts

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Oct 2013 - 22:50

http://www.oldracingcars.com/atlantic/

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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 30 Oct 2013 - 0:22


We have 18 pilots and 23 cars ( 1976 14 pilots and skins ; 1977 13 pilots and 14 skins + Alan Domingo's car for  Yunus )
FA races in South Africa met some drivers, so it is sufficient
pending a possible update of the MOD FA76 with more cars (that add Modus and Wheatcroft ... etc)


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March 76B Mike Domingo n°14 ; Team Domingo
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 30 Oct 2013 - 14:43

Eric Daon wrote:
17 pilots and 18 cars
FA races in South Africa met some drivers, so it is sufficient
pending a possible update of the MOD FA76 with more cars (that add Modus and Wheatcroft ... etc)[/color][/color]
Any possible update to the FA76 mod will not happen soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 30 Oct 2013 - 17:00

David Sabre wrote:
Any possible update to the FA76 mod will not happen soon.
____________Crying or Very sad 

I'm just saying that for the moment we have 17 pilots with their cars (plus a 2nd car for Klomfass) which is sufficient for this championship, in 1976&77 the average was 11 cars per race . (max 15 at Rand Winter Trophy 76 , Kyalami )

... and maybe we can be later some Modus and Wheatcroft has added , bounce


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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 31 Oct 2013 - 4:00

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Can you color the edge of the front wing gold to match the rest of the car?

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Eric Daon
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PostSubject: Re: Formula Atlantic South Africa   Formula Atlantic South Africa - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 31 Oct 2013 - 14:44

yes, it will be "gold" or black, depending on the selected photo
and stickers will be on the side

something like that :

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