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 Round 3 - Gran Premio di San Marino [Feb. 17th]

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Victor Alcocer
Jean-Marie Placais
Jorge Alonso
Jon Lasa
Yves Plaçais
Yoann Quioc
Oscar Hardwick
Eric Campillo
Gérard Ryon
Philippe Martinelli
Vincent Beretta
Matthew Brinson
Kevin Vanco
Thomas Gatschnegg
Samuli Leinonen
Anders Nilsson
Mike Becnel
David Jundt
Ricardo Magno
Greg Hunt
Richard Coxon
Alessio Campigotto
Florkin Marc
Tiago Malafaya
Martin Audran
Karel Marciniszyn
Alberto Ibañez
Abat Hernaez
Patrick Marucco
Ben Paulet
Cyril Derkir
Teemu Toikka
Mario Gassner
Frank Labédan
Ruben Freitas
Ben Warren
Guillaume Siebert
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Yves Plaçais
Racing Legend
Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Un mur de F1 à la dérive dans la première courbe, obligé de passer dans le gravier pour tout éviter, volant tordu, inconduisible, esc... Sad
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Abat Hernaez
Experienced Driver
Abat Hernaez


Number of posts : 203
Age : 47
Location : Ibarra, Spain
Registration date : 2010-07-19

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I can´t believe it, lap 3, i brake for the first hairpin and the car darts to the right against the wall, never had suffered this in all the laps i turned in this circuit Mad

Gutted, but i better start training for the next circuit. What an anticlimax for yesterday´s qualy pale
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Ricardo Magno
Club Driver
Ricardo Magno


Number of posts : 137
Age : 46
Location : Frankfurt, Germany
Registration date : 2010-06-19

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Another DNF... really can't believe it... Sad

Have no hope for Monaco as well. I've got to make it in Montreal onwards.
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Karel Marciniszyn
Pro Driver
Karel Marciniszyn


Number of posts : 954
Age : 40
Location : Czech republic
Registration date : 2009-11-03

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stupid...yes i am...what start as nice championship continues like a nightmare Sad I simply wanted tooooooo much... pale
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Another stupid error when running 3rd, coupled with the fragile nature of these cars = bent suspension. Made it to the pits for new FW but the car was hopeless steering to the left. I think these cars are too fast for my old brain Mad

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Carl Larrad
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Carl Larrad


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Age : 59
Location : Swindon , UK
Registration date : 2008-12-20

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
I think these cars are too fast for my old brain Mad

I Had the same problem it made me feel old lol!
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Registration date : 2009-11-03

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Carl Larrad wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
I think these cars are too fast for my old brain Mad

I Had the same problem it made me feel old lol!

I am affraid it the same for me Crying or Very sad
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Eric Campillo
Club Driver
Eric Campillo


Number of posts : 196
Age : 55
Location : Barcelona
Registration date : 2008-10-06

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A car spin in the middle of the straight ... Shocked makes me lose the spoiler.
Entry to the pits for repairs, but the car does not work well.
Then visit to the walls and .....press "Esc" Sad

Very happy to attend my first race in this championship, I hope to go further in Monaco. lol!
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Ben Paulet wrote:
Broadcast start 8.50 pm

Very neat. I listened and watched for a few minutes on my ipad. :top:
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Martin Audran
League Owner
Martin Audran


Number of posts : 5553
Age : 38
Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Spin in the exit of the last chicane directly into the wall :aie: , I was in the gearbox of Greg, with whom I had a great battle for 2/3 laps :top:

My car was pretty nervous on this race start, I don't know why scratch
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Mario Gassner
Experienced Driver
Mario Gassner


Number of posts : 306
Age : 41
Location : Principality of Liechtenstein
Registration date : 2008-11-22

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A race to forget...

Had a good start and was pretty fast. when i overtook greg, i misshifted into first gear and spun. well, same happened one lap later and i hit into a wall. ok, new spoiler and start again as 17th. had a good pace with several fastest laps. was able to drive on to 5th position. after my pitstop, gui as leader was behind me and i had a blue flag, but was able to pull away with the new super soft tires from him, but no, drive through penalty. what a :doh: . when i tried to put in the drive through, i misbraked and some seconds later, i had a disconnect.

No good at all.
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Arnaud Plum
Club Driver
Arnaud Plum


Number of posts : 109
Age : 45
Location : Bruxelles
Registration date : 2011-03-19

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Magnifique retransmission.

Beau spectacle! :clap:
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Ben Warren
Club Driver
Ben Warren


Number of posts : 160
Age : 36
Location : Oxfordshire, England
Registration date : 2012-12-11

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So so gutted. Sad

Made a really good start and survived some carnage around me, and had some good battles with cars a lot faster than me. Managed to hang onto some cars for a while, and then was managing to keep up with Philippe's McLaren. Had a scary moment at the Variante Alta with Gerard behind me. Gerard, the same thing happened in the Group C race where you completely outbraked yourself. I took to the grass this time just to make sure it didn't happen. It's really quite scary when you're running close behind me, please be a little more careful mate. Got the Fondmetal as high as 11th as one point, and was running 12th before I had a brake failure. Sad

I know at the last race in Brazil, I ran the brakes at the front (60:40) too much, and was informed that that was way too much. Ran the brakes at 54:46 today and got comfortable with them, yet the same thing happens. Maximum brake ducts too. I don't know what to do, I wasn't even driving hard, or particularly hard on the brakes either. Guess I need to try 50:50...

Really really disappointed, as I felt like I was definitely outdriving the car tonight. Hoping I can get my braking issue sorted before Monaco.
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Alessio Campigotto
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Alessio Campigotto


Number of posts : 1249
Age : 26
Location : UK
Registration date : 2011-12-29

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Engine failure :doh:
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Vincent Beretta
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Vincent Beretta


Number of posts : 1398
Age : 45
Location : France
Registration date : 2008-12-15

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200m de course. Yves perd le contrôle tout seul comme un grand et me met dans le mur. Heureusement que Martin avait donné des consignes de prudence... Bon enfin, c'est la course :smil20:
Bravo gui, bravo la labédan connexion. Wink
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Kevin Vanco
Club Driver
Kevin Vanco


Number of posts : 85
Age : 36
Location : Liège-Belgique
Registration date : 2012-08-01

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I had to deal the whole race with a lot of damage, especially the front wing who where missing, that gave me a lot of understeering.

Not easy at all, Im broken but I finished the race and im proud as if I would have won this one.

I think that none have been annoyed by me.

Hope that I will be able to do the next one, if someone drops his seat again.

Thanks for the organization
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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Vincent Beretta wrote:
200m de course. Yves perd le contrôle tout seul comme un grand et me met dans le mur. Heureusement que Martin avait donné des consignes de prudence... Bon enfin, c'est la course :smil20:

Je ne perd pas le contrôle, Vincent : Il y a plein de f1 en vrac dans la courbe devant, je suis contraint de tirer tout droit pour éviter le tout, après évidemment, plus rien n'est sous contrôle (c'est peut-être à ce moment que le contact a eu lieu). Mais je te prie de croire que je n'avais pris aucun risque jusqu'à lors, conformément aux instructions d'avant-course.
Et si tout cela a occasionné ton abandon (et le mien par la même occasion), j'en suis désolé pour toi, et m'en excuse, mais ce n'est malheureusement que de simples faits de course.


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Ben Paulet
Racing Legend
Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Stream of the race available here : Livestream
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Vincent Beretta
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Vincent Beretta


Number of posts : 1398
Age : 45
Location : France
Registration date : 2008-12-15

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Yves Plaçais wrote:
Vincent Beretta wrote:
200m de course. Yves perd le contrôle tout seul comme un grand et me met dans le mur. Heureusement que Martin avait donné des consignes de prudence... Bon enfin, c'est la course :smil20:

Je ne perd pas le contrôle, Vincent : Il y a plein de f1 en vrac dans la courbe devant, je suis contraint de tirer tout droit pour éviter le tout, après évidemment, plus rien n'est sous contrôle (c'est peut-être à ce moment que le contact a eu lieu). Mais je te prie de croire que je n'avais pris aucun risque jusqu'à lors, contrairement à ce que tu sembles affirmer.
Et si tout cela a occasionné ton abandon (et le mien par la même occasion), j'en suis désolé pour toi, et m'en excuse, mais ce n'est malheureusement que de simples faits de course.
regarde plutot le replay Wink mais nous sommes d'accord, il s'agit d'un fait de course sans importance, c'est la course


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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Ben Warren wrote:

I know at the last race in Brazil, I ran the brakes at the front (60:40) too much, and was informed that that was way too much. Ran the brakes at 54:46 today and got comfortable with them, yet the same thing happens. Maximum brake ducts too. I don't know what to do, I wasn't even driving hard, or particularly hard on the brakes either. Guess I need to try 50:50...

I was shocked on TS to hear that. I was running brake bias around 55:45 on duct 5(!), and the front brakes were down to 30% at the end, but didn't fail. So I fail to understand how that can be.

Is the Fondmetal that much of a sh*tbox that even the brakes fail on 8? Shocked


@Yves: Slipstream? Even Gui mentioned it before the race, you'll get understeer in corners if you follow someone closely. I nearly went off following Mario...
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Ben Warren
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Ben Warren


Number of posts : 160
Age : 36
Location : Oxfordshire, England
Registration date : 2012-12-11

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David Jundt wrote:
Ben Warren wrote:

I know at the last race in Brazil, I ran the brakes at the front (60:40) too much, and was informed that that was way too much. Ran the brakes at 54:46 today and got comfortable with them, yet the same thing happens. Maximum brake ducts too. I don't know what to do, I wasn't even driving hard, or particularly hard on the brakes either. Guess I need to try 50:50...

I was shocked on TS to hear that. I was running brake bias around 55:45 on duct 5(!), and the front brakes were down to 30% at the end, but didn't fail. So I fail to understand how that can be.

Is the Fondmetal that much of a sh*tbox that even the brakes fail on 8? Shocked


@Yves: Slipstream? Even Gui mentioned it before the race, you'll get understeer in corners if you follow someone closely. I nearly went off following Mario...

After speaking with Samuli, I think the problem is to do with my brake discs. I converted my quali setup and made the necessary changes for race setup. Everything was set perfectly, except my rear brake discs. Now I understand the problem now, silly thing to forget.

Still, disappointed because the race was going really well. Congrats to all finishers! I will hopefully join you at the end for the Monaco race. :D
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Ben you have to check the disk thickness in your setup, it was maybe not at his max scratch
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Guillaume Siebert
League Owner
Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Results and championship standings are up on the website :flag:
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 56
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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Quote :
Bravo gui, bravo la labédan connexion. Wink
Merci Vincent Smile
Quelle course de fou avec le gregui, collé dans ses echappements 50 tours il a finit par faire une petite faute, mais j'ai bien cru qu'il n'y arriverait jamais :langue: .
Je voulais eviter tout accrochage et j'ai reussi a rester propre toute la course en lui mettant une belle pression ...je me suis rarement regalé comme ça ...
merci a tout les lappés pour leur vigilance et bravo Gui "poor lonesome cowboy" qui a su reste concentre tout seul au loin !
Pour Monaco se sera une autre paire de manche .
merci et a bientot
:second:
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Ben Warren
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Ben Warren


Number of posts : 160
Age : 36
Location : Oxfordshire, England
Registration date : 2012-12-11

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Martin Audran wrote:
Ben you have to check the disk thickness in your setup, it was maybe not at his max scratch

Yeah, it was my own fault for being lazy and not making a new setup, instead I just converted my Quali setup. Thanks. :D
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