| Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] | |
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+37Antoine de Mautor Jorge Alonso Gianluca Desposito Simon Wattman Jean-Marie Placais Eric Campillo Gérard Ryon Ben Warren Philippe Martinelli Yoann Quioc Ben Paulet Oscar Hardwick Thomas Gatschnegg Vincent Beretta Anders Nilsson Frank Verplanken Alberto Ibañez Florkin Marc Mike Becnel Ricardo Magno Karel Marciniszyn Greg Hunt David Jundt Abat Hernaez Victor Alcocer Alessio Campigotto Mario Gassner Lorenzo Arisi Martin Audran Samuli Leinonen Teemu Toikka Patrick Marucco Ruben Freitas Yves Plaçais Tiago Malafaya Frank Labédan Guillaume Siebert 41 posters |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 13:39 | |
| No, they're set around 45 iirc. | |
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Karel Marciniszyn Pro Driver
Number of posts : 954 Age : 40 Location : Czech republic Registration date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 13:57 | |
| - Guillaume Siebert wrote:
- For me this track really highlights the big default of the mod : the grip at high speed. It's really not normal to lose the back end of the car that easily at 250kmh, when the downforce should be pinning the car to the ground.
as far as I understand the setup guide, this could happend because of touching ground with floor which (logically) affects greately the downforce generated by diffusor... | |
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Frank Labédan Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1043 Age : 56 Location : france - Landes Registration date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 15:12 | |
| Oui je perd egalement souvent l'arriere dans le gauche bosselé avant les stands ... j'ai essayé d'augmenter nettement la garde au sol et cela evite de rentrer dans le mur en marche arriere ! | |
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Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 46 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 16:28 | |
| Well, my car is really glued at high speed. I guess that your cars are hitting the ground | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 17:23 | |
| You might also have too much downforce at the front. It works well at slower speeds but when you take the fastest turns and force the car into them, it simply is too much. | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 18:54 | |
| I am pretty sure it's tire related, because the car isn't aerodynamicaly unstable (I dont lose the rear when forcing the car into the corner but when applying throttle). Best example is the Curva del Sol, i'm on a razor's edge all the time, just a bit too much throttle aaaaaand its gone. | |
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David Jundt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2647 Age : 34 Location : Binningen, Switzerland Registration date : 2012-07-14
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 23:21 | |
| ...and I haven't even started practising. Not to mention finding a setup will take me days(weeks would fit it more but I haven't got so much time) | |
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Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 46 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 2:32 | |
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Samuli Leinonen Club Driver
Number of posts : 181 Age : 45 Location : Helsinki Registration date : 2012-12-18
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 9:07 | |
| For Gui:
This mod is quite sensitive for ride height. Curva del sol is pretty difficult to negotiate with Lotus as well even when I'm quite happy with the setup. When driving fast corners on edge I constantly need to steer against the corner to cope with oversteer, look at late 80's early 90's F1 onboard cameras and you see drivers doing this all the time.
Interlagos track needs setup compromises because of long straights combined with very bumpy parts and tight banked corners and kerbs to run over, so finding "perfect" setup here can be very difficult.
Sounds like your rear might dive too deep when accelerating, try following:
Reduce front wing/Increase rear (rather the front because bigger rear wing causes your rear to dive even more aggressively!) Increase damping, especially rear bump settings Increase rear camber (negative)
Or tweak with ride height. Your real roll centre might be effed atm. Do you ride soft or hard springs here?
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 9:49 | |
| Yes setup is really hard here. I couldn't start practicing until yesterday and I'm struggling to find a good compromise The bumpy part of the track is a killer with the stiff suspension you need for the rest. And if you set aero to allow you to safely negotiate the fast last section, then you lack corner entry grip when going downhill | |
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Eric Campillo Club Driver
Number of posts : 196 Age : 55 Location : Barcelona Registration date : 2008-10-06
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 14:42 | |
| Present | |
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Karel Marciniszyn Pro Driver
Number of posts : 954 Age : 40 Location : Czech republic Registration date : 2009-11-03
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 16:04 | |
| I won´t attend thursday qualify session but I will be surely on saturday and if God helps me to qualify to the race I will be on grid on sunday... | |
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Jean-Marie Placais Club Driver
Number of posts : 195 Age : 41 Location : France Registration date : 2012-06-23
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Wed 23 Jan 2013 - 23:39 | |
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Yoann Quioc Club Driver
Number of posts : 119 Age : 45 Location : Au Phare Ouest, France Registration date : 2012-02-18
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 8:16 | |
| Présent | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 9:28 | |
| First qualifying session is tonight. 3 drivers have yet to confirm their participation or absence for this race : Jorge Alonso, Simon Wattman and Gianluca Desposito. | |
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Simon Wattman Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 270 Age : 36 Location : Stockholm Registration date : 2012-01-22
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 12:43 | |
| But will miss tonight qualify | |
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Ricardo Magno Club Driver
Number of posts : 137 Age : 46 Location : Frankfurt, Germany Registration date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 13:34 | |
| I won't qualify tonight either, but definitely will check the laptimes to see where I fit in...
Last edited by Ricardo Magno on Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 16:32; edited 1 time in total | |
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Gianluca Desposito Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1303 Age : 48 Location : Naples Italy Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 14:02 | |
| Presente. Spero di non scordare la qualificazione! | |
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Frank Labédan Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1043 Age : 56 Location : france - Landes Registration date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 16:43 | |
| J'espere etre present ce soir, mais l'ordi la dallara refuse de demarrer depuis hier . J'ai reussit a la lancer par un bouton collé sur la carte mere, en esperant que ce ne soit pas plus grave auquel cas je libererai ma voiture ... | |
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Jorge Alonso Rookie
Number of posts : 20 Age : 41 Location : Portugal Registration date : 2012-10-12
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 16:45 | |
| Jorge Alonso with coloni. trying to qualify in the top 26 to race, mission almos impossible lol, but i will try. Count me in. | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 16:54 | |
| Ok Jorge, good luck in your mission | |
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 17:53 | |
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Victor Alcocer Club Driver
Number of posts : 140 Age : 28 Location : France Registration date : 2012-11-17
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 18:22 | |
| Je serai présent a la seconde session de qualif,pas encore eu le temps de m'entrainer | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 21:30 | |
| Qualifying #1 has started | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1249 Age : 26 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] Thu 24 Jan 2013 - 22:14 | |
| Franck Labedan, pourrais-je essayer votre mise en place? | |
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