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 Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]

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Antoine de Mautor
Jorge Alonso
Gianluca Desposito
Simon Wattman
Jean-Marie Placais
Eric Campillo
Gérard Ryon
Ben Warren
Philippe Martinelli
Yoann Quioc
Ben Paulet
Oscar Hardwick
Thomas Gatschnegg
Vincent Beretta
Anders Nilsson
Frank Verplanken
Alberto Ibañez
Florkin Marc
Mike Becnel
Ricardo Magno
Karel Marciniszyn
Greg Hunt
David Jundt
Abat Hernaez
Victor Alcocer
Alessio Campigotto
Mario Gassner
Lorenzo Arisi
Martin Audran
Samuli Leinonen
Teemu Toikka
Patrick Marucco
Ruben Freitas
Yves Plaçais
Tiago Malafaya
Frank Labédan
Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert
League Owner
Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jan 2013 - 13:39

No, they're set around 45 iirc.
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Karel Marciniszyn


Number of posts : 954
Age : 40
Location : Czech republic
Registration date : 2009-11-03

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jan 2013 - 13:57

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
For me this track really highlights the big default of the mod : the grip at high speed. It's really not normal to lose the back end of the car that easily at 250kmh, when the downforce should be pinning the car to the ground.

as far as I understand the setup guide, this could happend because of touching ground with floor which (logically) affects greately the downforce generated by diffusor...
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 56
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jan 2013 - 15:12

Oui je perd egalement souvent l'arriere dans le gauche bosselé avant les stands :aie: ...
j'ai essayé d'augmenter nettement la garde au sol et cela evite de rentrer dans le mur en marche arriere !
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


Number of posts : 3384
Age : 46
Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jan 2013 - 16:28

Well, my car is really glued at high speed. I guess that your cars are hitting the ground
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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You might also have too much downforce at the front. It works well at slower speeds but when you take the fastest turns and force the car into them, it simply is too much.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 22 Jan 2013 - 18:54

I am pretty sure it's tire related, because the car isn't aerodynamicaly unstable (I dont lose the rear when forcing the car into the corner but when applying throttle). Best example is the Curva del Sol, i'm on a razor's edge all the time, just a bit too much throttle aaaaaand its gone.
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
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Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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...and I haven't even started practising. Not to mention finding a setup will take me days(weeks would fit it more but I haven't got so much time) :hihi:
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


Number of posts : 3384
Age : 46
Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Best example is the Curva del Sol,.....

Which spanish track is that turn from? :D :hihi: lol!
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Samuli Leinonen
Club Driver
Samuli Leinonen


Number of posts : 181
Age : 45
Location : Helsinki
Registration date : 2012-12-18

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 23 Jan 2013 - 9:07

For Gui:

This mod is quite sensitive for ride height. Curva del sol is pretty difficult to negotiate with Lotus as well even when I'm quite happy with the setup. When driving fast corners on edge I constantly need to steer against the corner to cope with oversteer, look at late 80's early 90's F1 onboard cameras and you see drivers doing this all the time.

Interlagos track needs setup compromises because of long straights combined with very bumpy parts and tight banked corners and kerbs to run over, so finding "perfect" setup here can be very difficult.

Sounds like your rear might dive too deep when accelerating, try following:

Reduce front wing/Increase rear (rather the front because bigger rear wing causes your rear to dive even more aggressively!)
Increase damping, especially rear bump settings
Increase rear camber (negative)

Or tweak with ride height. Your real roll centre might be effed atm. Do you ride soft or hard springs here?


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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Yes setup is really hard here. I couldn't start practicing until yesterday and I'm struggling to find a good compromise pale The bumpy part of the track is a killer with the stiff suspension you need for the rest. And if you set aero to allow you to safely negotiate the fast last section, then you lack corner entry grip when going downhill Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 161590
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Eric Campillo
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Eric Campillo


Number of posts : 196
Age : 55
Location : Barcelona
Registration date : 2008-10-06

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Present Very Happy
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Karel Marciniszyn


Number of posts : 954
Age : 40
Location : Czech republic
Registration date : 2009-11-03

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 23 Jan 2013 - 16:04

I won´t attend thursday qualify session but I will be surely on saturday and if God helps me to qualify to the race I will be on grid on sunday...
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Jean-Marie Placais
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Jean-Marie Placais


Number of posts : 195
Age : 41
Location : France
Registration date : 2012-06-23

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed 23 Jan 2013 - 23:39

Présent!
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Yoann Quioc
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Yoann Quioc


Number of posts : 119
Age : 45
Location : Au Phare Ouest, France
Registration date : 2012-02-18

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 24 Jan 2013 - 8:16

Présent Smile
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 24 Jan 2013 - 9:28

First qualifying session is tonight. :cowboy:
3 drivers have yet to confirm their participation or absence for this race : Jorge Alonso, Simon Wattman and Gianluca Desposito.
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Simon Wattman
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Simon Wattman


Number of posts : 270
Age : 36
Location : Stockholm
Registration date : 2012-01-22

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:conduit:

But will miss tonight qualify
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Ricardo Magno
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Ricardo Magno


Number of posts : 137
Age : 46
Location : Frankfurt, Germany
Registration date : 2010-06-19

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I won't qualify tonight either, but definitely will check the laptimes to see where I fit in... scratch


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Gianluca Desposito
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Gianluca Desposito


Number of posts : 1303
Age : 48
Location : Naples Italy
Registration date : 2009-09-14

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Presente. Spero di non scordare la qualificazione! :aie:
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 56
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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J'espere etre present ce soir, mais l'ordi la dallara refuse de demarrer depuis hier :hum: .
J'ai reussit a la lancer par un bouton collé sur la carte mere, en esperant que ce ne soit pas plus grave auquel cas je libererai ma voiture Crying or Very sad ...
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Jorge Alonso
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Age : 41
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2012-10-12

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Jorge Alonso with coloni.
trying to qualify in the top 26 to race, mission almos impossible lol, but i will try. Count me in.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Ok Jorge, good luck in your mission :aie:
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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


Number of posts : 4322
Age : 40
Location : HOSSEGOR
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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Frank Labédan wrote:
J'espere etre present ce soir, mais l'ordi la dallara refuse de demarrer depuis hier :hum: .
J'ai reussit a la lancer par un bouton collé sur la carte mere, en esperant que ce ne soit pas plus grave auquel cas je libererai ma voiture Crying or Very sad ...

t es pas foutu d avoir du materiel qui marche viel oncle !!!?? :jp:
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Victor Alcocer
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Victor Alcocer


Number of posts : 140
Age : 28
Location : France
Registration date : 2012-11-17

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PostSubject: Re: Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th]   Round 2 - Grande Prêmio do Brasil [Jan 27th] - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 24 Jan 2013 - 18:22

Je serai présent a la seconde session de qualif,pas encore eu le temps de m'entrainer :top:
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Qualifying #1 has started :flag:
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Alessio Campigotto
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Alessio Campigotto


Number of posts : 1249
Age : 26
Location : UK
Registration date : 2011-12-29

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Franck Labedan, pourrais-je essayer votre mise en place?
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