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 1962 RAC Tourist Trophy [Sept. 23rd]

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Jean-Philippe Cros
Lorenzo Arisi
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Alberto Ibañez
Ricardo Magno
Julien Lafon
Alban Cosnuau
Ludovic Tagli
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Ben Paulet
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Gérard Ryon
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Karel Marciniszyn
Philippe Bousquet
Paul Nadeau
Antoine de Mautor
finally gone :)
David Jundt
Patrick Marucco
Carl Larrad
Yves Plaçais
Mike Becnel
Dave Miller
Guillaume Siebert
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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That reminds me...need to kill that shifter mod :D
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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


Number of posts : 2000
Age : 64
Location : England uk
Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Carl Larrad wrote:
I just tested the Ferrari and Aston Martin .. I found i was much quicker in the GTO but god that DB4 sounds good ... :D

I thought same m8,aston is not quick,but sounds sweet :top:
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Christophe Blin
Rookie
Christophe Blin


Number of posts : 45
Age : 51
Location : France
Registration date : 2009-01-12

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Salut à tous

je participe avec grand plaisir sur la 250 gto verte du Piper Racing n°29 !

A dimanche !
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Un revenant Smile
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Is the car supposed to be right on the edge of losing grip in the high speed turns? I am having a heck of a time with high speed direction changes causing the back end to snap out. Even with maximum front spring and minimum rear and almost no rear swing arm the car is somewhat loose for me. I have started adjusting tire pressures and that has helped. Also adjust differential settings which also helped. But I am still not what I consider "safe" and frequently lose control.

Any suggestions?

Edit: looking at the big spread on hot laps I suspect I am not alone.
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Christophe Blin
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Christophe Blin


Number of posts : 45
Age : 51
Location : France
Registration date : 2009-01-12

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Un revenant Smile

Yes Smile
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Christophe Blin
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Christophe Blin


Number of posts : 45
Age : 51
Location : France
Registration date : 2009-01-12

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Is the car supposed to be right on the edge of losing grip in the high speed turns? I am having a heck of a time with high speed direction changes causing the back end to snap out. Even with maximum front spring and minimum rear and almost no rear swing arm the car is somewhat loose for me. I have started adjusting tire pressures and that has helped. Also adjust differential settings which also helped. But I am still not what I consider "safe" and frequently lose control.

Any suggestions?

Edit: looking at the big spread on hot laps I suspect I am not alone.

Look at this vidéo, Loosing grip at high speed is normal

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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


Number of posts : 2000
Age : 64
Location : England uk
Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Is the car supposed to be right on the edge of losing grip in the high speed turns? I am having a heck of a time with high speed direction changes causing the back end to snap out. Even with maximum front spring and minimum rear and almost no rear swing arm the car is somewhat loose for me. I have started adjusting tire pressures and that has helped. Also adjust differential settings which also helped. But I am still not what I consider "safe" and frequently lose control.

Any suggestions?

Edit: looking at the big spread on hot laps I suspect I am not alone.

try lower front camber :top:
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


Number of posts : 5553
Age : 38
Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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GTO #9 :conduit:
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Steve Parker wrote:


try lower front camber :top:

Will do Steve - thx

Edit - that helped a lot Steve, thanks.
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Christophe Blin wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
Is the car supposed to be right on the edge of losing grip in the high speed turns? I am having a heck of a time with high speed direction changes causing the back end to snap out. Even with maximum front spring and minimum rear and almost no rear swing arm the car is somewhat loose for me. I have started adjusting tire pressures and that has helped. Also adjust differential settings which also helped. But I am still not what I consider "safe" and frequently lose control.

Any suggestions?

Edit: looking at the big spread on hot laps I suspect I am not alone.

Look at this vidéo, Loosing grip at high speed is normal


Yup, that looks like a lot of my laps but that guy has a bad habit of not spinning lol!
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Christophe Blin
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Christophe Blin


Number of posts : 45
Age : 51
Location : France
Registration date : 2009-01-12

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Ricardo Magno wrote:
Ok. :top:

Yesterday I was looking at the lap times and crunching the numbers... (hmmmm... 1m36s x 100 laps = 9600s = 160 min = 2h40m!...) Suspect

It has been a long time since I entered such a long race... looking forward to start! :conduit:

Any tips on fuel and tyres? :hum:


I think it is a very good opinion
Wouldn't it be better to run 50 laps instead of 100?
Or even 2 races of 50 laps for those who want to last later ?
More than 2 hours will end very late on a Sunday evening...
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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Age : 38
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Again, we do races as they were back in time, or we don't :regl:

Maybe we can start the race a little bit earlier, but I'll let Frank decide, it's "his" open.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Martin Audran wrote:
Again, we do races as they were back in time, or we don't :regl:
It tends to be boring to have to repeat that day after day.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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It seems we will be visiting some relatives on sunday evening, so I probably won't make it to the race. If someone wants my car, please take it as I can't confirm right now that I will be joining the race in time. :smil20:
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Antoine de Mautor
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Antoine de Mautor


Number of posts : 3617
Age : 36
Location : Nantes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Martin Audran wrote:
Again, we do races as they were back in time, or we don't :regl:
It tends to be boring to have to repeat that day after day.

Pfff ouais... Shocked
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Joel Sixou
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Joel Sixou


Number of posts : 369
Age : 60
Location : TOULON
Registration date : 2008-09-14

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Pas mal la video, on y retrouve des similitudes ou je me trompe?
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Vincent Beretta
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Vincent Beretta


Number of posts : 1398
Age : 45
Location : France
Registration date : 2008-12-15

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Joel Sixou wrote:
Pas mal la video, on y retrouve des similitudes ou je me trompe?

Y a des similitudes, c'est vrai. Le mod HGT rend bien le comportement de ces caisses mal guidées, mal suspendues.
Là, sans arceau, le chassis de la vieille sunbeam doit se tortiller dans tous les sens, ça ne doit pas arranger les choses. :urgence:
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Martin Audran wrote:
Again, we do races as they were back in time, or we don't :regl:
It tends to be boring to have to repeat that day after day.

HSO gives you a realistic race distance hemmeroid and damnit you better like it!! :jp:

I actually did not know we always are running full race distance. That is actually pretty cool! Umm, please never run a Daytona 500. I will break my nose falling asleep and head bouncing the desk. If you run a Coca Cola 600 my lawyer will be in touch.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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Location : Paris, France
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Mike Becnel wrote:
If you run a Coca Cola 600 my lawyer will be in touch.
lol!
I think a Daytona 500 must be very intense and mentaly exhausting Smile
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
If you run a Coca Cola 600 my lawyer will be in touch.
lol!
I think a Daytona 500 must be very intense and mentaly exhausting Smile

If it ran 500 miles (200 laps) without caution it would be. But the 500 almost aways has a "big one" meaning a massive multi car crash so everyone gets a 15 to 30 minute break while it is cleaned up. Sometimes Juan Pablo Montoya gives everyone a SUPER long break by spinning and hitting the jet dryer which then bursts into flames (because he hit and destroyed the turbine in the jet dryer). I tell you, that man has talent. Not even I have managed to hit the safety crew (yet).


Everyone remember to bind a key for your ignition on/off per the race start rules!! :regl:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Age : 121
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The most stressing part of the Daytona 500 or even any oval racing is the traffic. In any track it's difficult to keep concentration over a period of time, but doing so when driving bumper to bumper door to door is simply crazy. Those guys are amazing Shocked
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Joel Sixou
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Joel Sixou


Number of posts : 369
Age : 60
Location : TOULON
Registration date : 2008-09-14

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Salut.
besoin d'une info pour ce soir, à l'epoque faisait il un ou des arrêts au stand?
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Ludovic Tagli
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Ludovic Tagli


Number of posts : 201
Age : 49
Location : france
Registration date : 2010-05-01

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bonsoir
je me posait la meme question,arret pit est t il obligatoire,comme je n ai pas calculer la consomation,je pense que oui mais si vous pouver le confirmer .merci
hate d etre a se soir cheers cheers
a bientot ,tres bientot en piste
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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Pour la Ferrari en tout cas, il semble qu'il va falloir s’arrêter à un moment donné pour l'essence oui Smile Pour les pneus, aucune idée par contre :smil20:
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