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PostSubject: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Sun 26 Aug 2012 - 23:22

I see no race scheduled for Sept 2nd.

Anybody up for a 1991 F1 somewhere fun? Hockenheim (like we just ran in interseries) or other?

Dibs on the 2nd Williams car if so Smile

-Mike

Edit: and the race should be short or even 2 or 3 really short races so those who break apart can come back again (me mostly :D )

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Planning (All times CET, Paris Time) :

Sunday September 2nd :


8.45 PM : Qualifying session
9.00 PM : Warmup
9.10 PM : Race 1 (10 laps)

9.30 PM : Qualifying session
9.45 PM : Warmup
9.55 PM : Race 2 (10 laps)

10.15 PM : Qualifying session
10.30 PM : Warmup
10.40 PM : Race 3 (10 laps)

Server IP : 91.121.135.76:34600
password : hso91

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 9:12

Why not, I can launch the server with 15min qualifying and 10 laps races or something like this, but this won't be considered as official HSO races.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 9:45

I'm still yet to drive these, so I'd be in favour :D

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 9:59

I'm not sure if i will be at home if i am i will try and make it Smile

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 10:29

Just tell me what track you want guys. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 12:23

Why not Interlagos? Wink

Edit: ah yes Hockenheim sounds nice too Smile

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 13:02

Magny Cours or Monaco? Shame no Paul Ricard Sad

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 13:26

Absent, je serai sans doute encore à Bruxelles déménager ma fifille !

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 14:48

present Smile
Interlagos or Imola...only my 2 cents

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 15:00

Absent ce week end

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 16:44

i would also be up for it.

should we run 1990 just for fun, so we have a taste for the new mod?



Tracks:
as tracks, i love this hockenheim, but maybe it is no track for overtaking in F1? (unless close chase doesnt ruin the aerodynamics of the rear car, e.g. in the Ost-Kurve).

What tracks make good 1991 cars?
Estoril?
Aida?


if we are not many, Japanese tracks like (T)sugo or Ebisu would be great!
remember, it is only 10 laps or so what we will race.3 short runs with reverse grid always grant chance for anyone Smile

quite all Circuits of the world:
http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/

Ebisu
http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/Japan/Ebisu.html

Tsukuba is a great track: http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/Japan/Tsukuba.html

in case you dont know tsukuba, look this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=froT98RyeDk

at 52s you will hear, where i have my Impossibru-face from

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 18:02

Hockenheim please Gui

10 laps and 15 min qual is perfect.

Would it be possible to launch an available cars section/official thread for it in the Interseries or Open events section? If so, put me down for the Williams 2nd car (not Mansell...I am too slow to be him..Senna fan club will be sending me thank you notes FYI).

Thanks,

Mike

We can run 2x 10 lap races so the races plus qual will be under 1 hour.

No formation lap, start from grid as in last 2 Open races.


Edit: in the other thread I said near 1:40s for the fast guys. WRONG. Prob 134s or 35s. I just ran a 1:40.9 in the Williams.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 19:27

Nah no official topic or cars booking, its just for fun, you guys can take any car you want. We'll see if people can chose cars according to their level by themselves Smile

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 20:02

OK, I can live with that.

Any chance of a "hot laps" link? :D (it is the only place I do not hit people)

Would one of you more experienced guys rate all the chassis A for fast B for middle C for slow?



As far as time (mods please edit as needed):

8PM Server launch/warmup (15 minutes)
8:15PM Qualification starts (15 minutes)
8:30PM Start of Race 1 (~15 minutes) -- no warmup lap -- 10 laps
8:45PM Restart race
8:45PM Start of Race 2 (~15 minutes) -- no warmup lap -- 10 laps

HSO91 password. Same server as F1 1991 races?

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 20:37

Jens Kraft wrote:
i would also be up for it.

should we run 1990 just for fun, so we have a taste for the new mod?
Smile

The mod is incomplete unfortunately Sad

Mike Becnel wrote:
OK, I can live with that.

Any chance of a "hot laps" link? :D (it is the only place I do not hit people)

Would one of you more experienced guys rate all the chassis A for fast B for middle C for slow?

These are Tiago's at Adelaide Smile

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1 Williams FW14- 1:16.917 (no comment)
2 Benetton B191- 1:17.714 (no comment)
3 Mclaren MP4/6- 1:17.875 (no comment)
4 Ferrari 643- 1:17.904 (no comment)
5 Dallara D191- 1:18.107 (bit heavy and understeery, good engine)
6 Tyrrell 020- 1:18.254 (good handling, brakes not that good, good engine)
7 Jordan 191- 1:18.524 (very oversteery, good brakes)
8 Leyton House CG911- 1:19.414 (unstable exiting corners, good engine)
9 Ligier JS35B- 1:19.802 (good brakes, underpowered)
10 Minardi M191- 1:19.804 (Neutral, easy to drive)
11 Brabham BT-60Y- 1:19.882 (poor brakes, understeery, good engine)
12 Lotus 102B- 1:20.366 (Touchy Brakes, nervous handling)
13 Larrouse LC91- 1:21.200 (understeery in slow corners, underpowered)
14 Footwork FA12C Hart- 1:21.361 (good brakes, oversteery, underpowered)
15 Fondmetal FOMET1- 1:21.523 (Agile, underpowered)
16 AGS JH25B- 1:21.675 (oversteery, underpowered)
17 Coloni C4- 1:22.149 (it's theoretically the slowest, but it was nice to drive it )
18 Lambo 291- 1:22.427 (peaky engine, very understeery, reacts pretty slowly)

However, the cars will probably react very differently to different circuits. I would expect the times from Spa would be more relevant for Hockenheim Wink

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 21:12

we could try to guess the values from spa, its more like Hockenheim.


ah, i would rather say 3x 15 minutes because 2 is not fun and therefore we skip practice.

why?
i would have shortened quali to 5 minutes that would be great, so u have some surprises. the perfect guys slow, the slow guys decent. we already know the track.

but as in 1967 we can use praccy = quali Smile

8:00 Forum call "server launched"

8:02 Quali 15mins
8:17 quali ends

8:20 15mins / 8 laps

8:40 15 mins

9:00 15 mins

dont forget that after race u have 2 mins lap out, you have grid build ... and all that so ur calculation is a bit tight --> so we will end up like your race but 3 heats.
2nd run full reverse grid
3rd run only top 6 reverse grid


anyone seen the Tsukuba track in my video above? it is just awesome to race, i raced it once iwth Carsten Theile
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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 23:35

I'll arrive on the evening without any training, I already know the track but not the cars. Which one should be the easiest, and not be a slow-ass car?

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 23:44

I think the Minardi is pretty neutral, not very fast but definitely not slow Smile

Maybe there for the race Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Mon 27 Aug 2012 - 23:51

Cool, my favourite team Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 5:57

You can pretty much take your car from Spa and increase 6th gear (make the number larger) by 1 or 2 notches and it will be driveable.

Jens at race time if people want a 3rd race there shalt be a 3rd race.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 9:35

I like the reverse idea grid from Jens Smile

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 9:48

I'd prefer short qualifying session between each races, so that people can change car if they want to.

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 18:02

How can that be done Gui?

Will you or another admin be there to reset (and possibly grab the race results?)

Multiple qual sessions sounds good. Maybe just 2 races, and 2 qual sessions?

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 21:56

So is this race just a matter or turning up on the night??

Which I.P address is it again???

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PostSubject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd]   Tue 28 Aug 2012 - 22:51

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
I'd prefer short qualifying session between each races, so that people can change car if they want to.

hey we can downgrade winners :D

so wubbers must take a slower car
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