F1 1991 - Belgian GP [August 19th]

Everywhere lol

You're the opposite of me, you know what to doxD

DO we have to use the realistic gearbox? I think someone mentioned it already...

David Jundt wrote:

What degree of rotation do you normally use with these cars, and how much steering lock?

Anyone running less than 15 wings?

The cars seem to love going straight, but not to turn

Wings around 30 for me.

David Jundt wrote:

DO we have to use the realistic gearbox? I think someone mentioned it already...

If you don't, the car is a lot slower (less power).

I think I use it, but it doesn't feel like I have to lift the throttle to shift down... or do I misunderstand how the gearboxes work in this game?

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

David Jundt wrote:

What degree of rotation do you normally use with these cars, and how much steering lock?

Anyone running less than 15 wings?

The cars seem to love going straight, but not to turn

Wings around 30 for me.

havent driven yet, expected 5 degrees all around.
is there an explanation why this is so much off the historic values (see cars back then in spa)

David Jundt wrote:

I think I use it, but it doesn't feel like I have to lift the throttle to shift down... or do I misunderstand how the gearboxes work in this game?

i dont know either.

question one: automatic clutch, f11:
in the 1970wsc it didnt matter at all, i switched it off and expected shifting times to decrease, but seems it only kicks in on spins to "atni-stall". does it do anything to shifting times in f1 91?


two: i have switched off auto lift and auto blip in playier.ini - does this decrease shifting time? gearbox life time? or affect car performance (like gearbox does in car selection menu?)

three: do i have to depress the clutch button on my steering wheel at every shift? i did that in the indy race and hell it was hard stuff. because someone said: not clutching can destroy the gearbox in the race. (maybe auto clutch (f11) will help here? (but didnt help in wsc70).

i think that could answer it all

David Jundt wrote:

I think I use it, but it doesn't feel like I have to lift the throttle to shift down... or do I misunderstand how the gearboxes work in this game?

On most cars, the realistic gearbox option disables autolift and autolift. Only the Ferrari and Williams are different with their semi automatic gearboxes, which have autolift & autoblip.
I dont get your issue with lifting the throttle on downshifts, no car forces you to have 0% throttle on downshifts.

Jens Kraft wrote:

havent driven yet, expected 5 degrees all around.
is there an explanation why this is so much off the historic values (see cars back then in spa)

What historical values ?

Did I say lift? I think I meant apply throttle while shifting down. If I don't press any pedal and shift down, it does. Is that right or wrong?

I am not sure.

I haven't changed any settings regarding autoblip anf shift in the inis as I don't know where

Check your PLR file in the Userdata/YourName folder, if you want to drive in the same conditions as on the server, you need to have autoblip and autolift disabled (the line must be "autoblip = 0")

David Jundt wrote:

Did I say lift? I think I meant apply throttle while shifting down. If I don't press any pedal and shift down, it does. Is that right or wrong?

I am not sure.

I haven't changed any settings regarding autoblip anf shift in the inis as I don't know where

yeah you said lift, i was also confused. so i didnt know what to say.

guilliaume continued confusiontime by getting it right on his own but sayiing "autolift and autolift" off lol.

well david, if u havent changed usually the standard is autoblip on, autolift off.

gui, does the server really take autolift and autoblip away? i think it can change many things (like grip, engine ... but also personal input files?)

i have it off anyways. but: do i need to depress the clutch at gear shift(surely it shifts without depressing it, but will that decrease my gearbox life time?)

Auto Clutch="1"
Auto Lift="0" // Whether to automatically lift with manual shifting but auto-clutch (non-semiautomatic trans only)
Auto Blip="1" // Whether to automatically blip with manual shifting but auto-clutch (non-semiautomatic trans only)
Shift Mode="0"

I usually don't use the clutch pedal as I just recently changed to be a left foot braker; Before that, I was braking AND accelerating with my right foot alone(!)

The clutch pedal is useless in rFactor anyway, the only risk with autoclutch off is stalling when the car is stopped. Autoclutch is allowed on the server. But autoblip isn't, you should disable it to drive in the same conditions, and then you'll have to keep the throttle open when you downshift.

i have the authentic manual transmission in the minardi and it autoblips.

guilliaume, is there a mod which requires you to depress the clutch pedal to get the gear in ?
in gpl you need to overstep the clutch threshold.
in nascar2003 you can also cahnge without it and you can destroy that partical gear.

is it here too?

No. There's a plugin that simulates that though, cant remember its name.
And your Minardi autoblips probably because you have autoblip enabled

Je crois que c'est ça:
Grinding Tranny Mod

C'est le plugin qui est aussi sur HGT 1.9.

Franck Mercurio wrote:

Je crois que c'est ça:
Grinding Tranny Mod

ccol,

when i drove my renault twingo 1993 with the c06 c3g (1977R4) engine,

the fricking thing wont take shift when i clutch in 2nd in winter lol. but hey, its like the link of Franck says: whenever i pull the gear in and it wont get in, i also need to fully reclutch.

i cant figure why that is, but it seems a common issue in H pattern gearboxes.

all i know there are things like shafts around the gear axles that make the noise, not the teeth of the cogwheel


Gui i thought the server switches auto blip off and i think i have it off.

some cars have the clutch connected to the throttle pedal (invention)

OMG Gui awesome laptime i think i need help

I'll upload my setup and replay asap (not the 1'51"1 but 1'52"7 with soft tires, which is as good as 1'51"1 with quali tires).
If you want to use the softer qualifying tires, you got to make a very slow outlap to avoid burning your tires before even starting your flying lap.

edit : there you go : ftp://91.121.135.76/setups/rFactor/F1%201991/Spa%201988/GS%20Spa88%20Dallara%201%2052%207.rar

Carl Larrad wrote:

OMG Gui awesome laptime i think i need help

we all need help.







and now serious: Press F1 (which is for help) and in rFactor for a practical help




what GUi does is very verysimple:


Right pedal: faster
Left Pedal: slower


Steering wheel: Direction.

Now brake late, accelerate early and dont slide

THX Gui I Cant wait to try

Tout à fait oublié de faire les qualifs.
De toute façon, je viens juste de finir la mise au point en Off Line avec une petite course de 25 tours pour assurer le travail , donc pas de regrets pour les qualifs .
Moyenne au tour 2'12" (ben oui, on m'a encore donné le mulet chez Lotus )
Quoiqu'il en soit je serais au départ et tout compte fait, je préfère encore partir dernier , je collectionne les morceaux qui jonchent la route dans les premiers tours . (hehe)

1:51,151

Raaaaaape

Violllllllllllllllll

Raaaaaaape

Viollllllllllllllll


Here Gui...just take this now

Bernard Jeanmart wrote:

Tout à fait oublié de faire les qualifs.
De toute façon, je viens juste de finir la mise au point en Off Line avec une petite course de 25 tours pour assurer le travail , donc pas de regrets pour les qualifs .
Moyenne au tour 2'12" (ben oui, on m'a encore donné le mulet chez Lotus )
Quoiqu'il en soit je serais au départ et tout compte fait, je préfère encore partir dernier , je collectionne les morceaux qui jonchent la route dans les premiers tours . (hehe)

Hé Bernard c'est la semaine prochaine la course
Ce soir c'est Interserie à Silverstone. Si j'ai mis les courses à venir sur la page d'accueil du site c'est pas pour rien.

Heu avec l'âge la mémoire ça ne s'arrange pas puis j'étais tellement excité pour rouler à Spa...
Ceci va me laisser beaucoup de temps pour faire évoluer la Lotus mais très peu de temps pour faire un setup qui tient la route pour la Porsche 908/2 surtout à Silverstone . Bon, autant pour moi , il me reste quelques heures pour y arriver....